Eisenhower Predicted Barry, Gavin, Tom, Mike and Kevin

President Eisenhower saw the current corruption of government and science coming, 55 years ago

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present  and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific/technological elite.

– Dwight Eisenhower  1960

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34 Responses to Eisenhower Predicted Barry, Gavin, Tom, Mike and Kevin

  1. rah says:

    I found this interesting. One might want to take the quiz to:

    Why some Wisconsin state employees are barred from mentioning ‘climate change’

    • Eric Simpson says:

      “We’ve reached the point now where we’re going to try to gag employees from talking about issues. In this case, climate change.”


      Gag ’em in every state we can!

    • omanuel says:

      The Wisconsin ban illustrates well Eisenhower’s 1961 warning “that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific/technological elite.” I finally made this video of Eisenhower’s 1961 farewell warning in 2010:


      I was not paying attention to Eisenhower in 1961, and did not fully comprehend until forty years later – in 2001 – why basic flaws were hidden in Dr. Carl von Weizsacker’s concept of “nuclear binding energy” [Exaggerating proton-proton repulsion; Underestimating neutron-neutron repulsion] in a nuclear physics textbook by leaving off data points for the decay of the neutron and the tritium atom from a graph of nuclear decay energies of all “mirror-image nuclei” from A = 1-41.

      However, forty years later, within weeks after we used nuclear rest mass data to show neutron repulsion is the primary source of solar energy [“The Sun’s origin, composition and source of energy”, Paper 1041, 32nd Lunar and Planetary Science Conf., Houston, TX, March 12-16, 2001, LPI Contribution 1080] http://www.omatumr.com/lpsc.prn.pdf . . .

      One-hundred and seventy-eight (178) scientists at the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory (SNO) announced the discovery that solar neutrinos from H-fusion in the Sun magically oscillate away before reaching the neutrino detectors ! Thus was the lock-step, consensus SSM (Standard Solar Model of hydrogen-filled stars) saved.

  2. jdseanjd says:

    Chuck in the financial elite dominating the political elite & the scientific/technological elite, & there emerges a fuller picture:

    A very competent interpretation, IMHO.
    The Hunger Games is where they’re herding us.

    John Doran.

    • jdseanjd says:

      Not forgetting the financial elite’s domination (purchase) of the media & the Universities.
      At least the 2nd & 3rd raters within academia.

    • Disillusioned says:

      Thanks John for that link. The global plan under Agenda 21 is diabolical. A few others have brought this up before, and mucht of the time I have noticed there are very few comments thereafter. Many people avoid this stuff like the plague. Conservatives don’t want to believe that the Bushes are a part of it, and liberals seem completely unaware that they’ve been used. Voters on both sides have been dumbed down and used. And this is why nothing changes when their party gains control. The elected leaders become puppets for the greater global agenda, set long ago. Gail (conspicuously absent recently) has posted a lot on the topic.

      The newest twist to control over the last half-century was indeed to find the new common enemy – fears of environmental catastrophe – about which they hoped nobody could argue, and around which they could usurp control.

      But, whether it began in 1968 with the forming of the Club of Rome, or 1945 after the spoils of WWII, or with centralized control of the monetary system a century ago (or a combination of them all, building one on top of the other) – it is happening; this has been going on for a very long time.

      Journalist H.L. Mencken was spot-on when he said, “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.”

      • omanuel says:

        Yes, the urge to save the world from nuclear annihilation in 1945 was a false front for the urge to rule the world.

        Stalin very cleverly manipulated the egos of scientists (through the UN) by getting them to help save the world from nuclear annihilation by forbidding public knowledge of the energy that destroyed Hiroshima – Neutron Repulsion.

        Scientists destroyed the foundations of nuclear and solar physics in order to help Stalin rule the world.

        • Disillusioned says:

          Oliver, you bring this piece to the discussion that almost nobody talks about, and which I must admit am ignorant. I read your stuff, and do not comment. But that does not mean you are ignored. I’m simply taking it in, and cannot add anything.

        • omanuel says:

          Study the data carefully, Disillusioned, and decide for yourself if the Sun is the pulsar remnant from the birth of the solar system, powered by neutron-repulsion

          Nuclear structure rearranges at ~150 amu
          _ a.) Below ~150 amu, the nuclear core is neutron-proton pairs
          _ b.) Above ~150 amu, the nuclear core is entirely neutrons

          Some Lanthanide elements, Actinide elements, planets, stars, galaxies and the universe have masses > 150 amu.

          I will post above the error I realized in Robley Evan’s textbook of nuclear physics, The Atomic Nucleus in 1961. That was the year of Eisenhower’s warning “that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific/technological elite.

          Basic flaws in Dr. Carl von Weizsacker’s concept of “nuclear binding energy” (exaggerating proton-proton repulsion by underestimating neutron-neutron repulsion) were hidden by leaving off data points for the decay of the neutron and the tritium atom from a graph of decay energies of “mirror-image nuclei.”

        • Disillusioned says:

          Thank you, Oliver

      • jdseanjd says:

        Interesting question, Disillusioned,to which I would answer: “How far back in history would you like to go?” Empire building & plans for global domination have been around forever.
        The Sumerian Empire? The Egyptian? The Roman? The Roman Catholic Church, which outlived the secular Empire? Take your pick. It’s not a new phenomenon.

        I think we are in an age akin to that of Galileo: new knowledge, via scientific progress, is breaking the present paradigm, just as the new knowledge of Galileo threatened to break the paradigm of his time, when the Roman Catholic Church ruled both science & religion.

        Our present Masters Of The Universe are, IMHO, the Banksters, the most heavily subsidised “business” on the planet. In short, they are allowed to loan out, & charge interest on, £10, for every £1 they have in their vaults. That’s, for an experienced business man, a totally ludicrous profit margin/subsidy. When they go broke & are deemed “too big to fail”, then, to me, that breaks Capitalism & Democracy into pieces, & we now exist in a fascist dictatorship which the Rothschild Central Bankster system is trying to extend worldwide. When the Banksters’ debts are lumped onto the backs of poor taxpayers, then that’s “progress” back toward a Feudal system of Lords & Serfs. Look into what is happening in Greece right now.

        I enjoy discussing this stuff with Gail, she’s a fund of knowledge.

        For when this present attempt at world domination began, I would say 1st May, 1776.
        Adam Weishaupt, an ex-Jesuit crony of Rothschild completed a plan for world domination that day. The 25 point plan included control of the media, & ruining the youth through sex & drugs. Google & youtube are useful, & so is this book: Pawns in the Game, by William Guy Carr. 1955, 250 page paperback, £20, & worth it. Please bear in mind that Carr was that most fervent of Catholics, the adult convert, & where he writes Jew, read Bankster.

        I’d be grateful for any feedback.

        • jdseanjd says:

          I just youtubed: ted gunderson tells all.
          10 minute sections of Gunderson’s speech.

          Gunderson is where I first heard of Carr’s book. A 1hr 54min version:
          Or, put in search box: FBI Chief Ted Gunderson exposes Satanism Pedophilia Elite Murder NWO full length. 1 hr 54 mins.

        • Disillusioned says:

          John, the most feedback I can give is thanks. You and Gail understand this stuff much more than the average bear. I’m fairly average. Still learning. Still becoming disillusioned from the old (what I understood reality to be) paradigm.

        • jdseanjd says:

          Naffed up the ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgK-Ud5lKNI

          John Doran.

        • Disillusioned says:


          I believe I watched that (and an interview of Gunderson) a few years ago. No time to watch a 2-hr vid now, to refamiliarize myself with it, but may try this weekend if I get time.

          Also, perhaps this is old paradigm, but I turn off immediately when I read anything anti-Jew. I believe there is a U.N., International banks/international corporations/governments alliance for control of the world’s people and wealth. But as a skeptic, I also do not just eat up every Alex Jones-type conspiracy theory that I read.

          Somewhere in it all, therein lies grains of truth. I like begin with what the founders of the Constitution hammered out, and go from there. When I see deviations from that, flags go up.

    • Eisenhower called it…

      The Media harps on the Military Industrial Complex… but will not consider these other quotes..

  3. Eric Simpson says:

    Eisenhower Predicted Barry, Gavin, Tom, Mike and Kevin
    Don’t forget Phil.
    “[Scientists] are making up their facts to fit their conclusions. They’ve already caught them doing this.” –Rand Paul, Kentucky
    Incriminating ‘Climategate’ Emails from Phil Jones:
    “Mike, can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith regarding the latest IPCC report? Keith will do likewise.” -Phil Jones, Director of Climate Research Unit, UEA, UK
    “Kevin and I will keep them out [of the IPCC Report] somehow – even if we have to redefine what the ‘peer-review literature’ is!” -Phil Jones, Director of Climate Research Unit, UEA
    “If they [McIntyre and McKitrick] ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the United Kingdom, I think I’ll delete the file rather than send it to anyone.” -Phil Jones
    “This will reduce the 1940-1970 cooling in Northern Hemisphere temperatures. Explaining the cooling with sulphates won’t be quite as necessary.” -Phil Jones
    “I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI (Freedom of Information) Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process.” -Phil Jones
    “At present, however, the warming is taking a break, there can be no argument about that.” -Phil Jones, 2010
    “I’d like the world to warm up quicker, but if it did… humanity would be in a real mess!” -Phil Jones
    “Basic problem is that all models are wrong.” -Phil Jones
    “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.” -Phil Jones

    Hide the Decline music video:

  4. cheshirered says:

    That is an unerringly accurate prediction, and made without a computer model in sight.

  5. gator69 says:

    Eisenhower also saw the dangers of state and media collusion, but his advisers had him edit that part out of the speech. A real shame, and poor judgement on Ike’s part.

  6. annieoakley says:

    A Technocracy is the direction we are going in my opinion. Energy may be the currency of the NWO, Agenda 21 is still in the scheme and people are totally controlled by the Technocrats.

  7. Elaine Supkis says:


    my astronomer/rocket scientist dad, Aden Meinel, was friends with Eisenhower since they met during WWII. He discussed with Eisenhower how to start NASA.

    Eisenhower wasn’t against all science funding, he was worried about the social funding in the universities. He was very much for funds for space and astronomy which is why Kitt Peak was started with Federal funds my dad got from Eisenhower.

  8. Michael Newhouse MD says:

    Interesting that the IPCC s changed “global warming” to “climate change” since they find themselves at odds with their models that have predicted all sorts of catastophes that have not happened! But hasn’t climate been changing for 10-15,000 years? And is it not about time for the next ice age to begin?
    I hypothesize that rising CO2 might be the world’s eiderdown comforter-the higher the better (within reason)! More plant growth and thus crop yields, forest growth and food for spaceship earth! Let’s get “real” and spend our resources, not on “the emperor’s clothes”, of carbon certificates and expensive meetings with their fancy locations, chauffeured limos, and self-congratulatory banquets but rather to provide fresh water, healthy food, sewage disposal and man/woman-kind’s great scourges namely
    Tuberculosis, malaria, sleeping sickness, polio etc.

  9. annieoakley says:

    http://www.technocracy.org/ “Government that works” Incorporated in 1933.

  10. Andy DC says:

    I have known people both at the University of Maryand and NASA/Goddard who are totally sickened by the whole Government grant scam. These Federal agencies have millions in grants to give away and if anyone shows even a hint of objectivity or skepticism (actually being scientists), they are denied out of hand. Not difficult to obtain a consensus under such an utterly corrupt system.

    Ike was extremely underrated, both as a President and an intellectual. Maybe the last President that you could truly be proud of.

    • omanuel says:

      It was a faculty member at University Maryland – Professor Vic Viola – who spoke out in April 1976 when he observed the NAS and AGU try to prevent Dr. Dwarka Das Sabu and me from presenting evidence the Sun made our elements and birthed the Solar System.

  11. Elaine Supkis says:

    Goddard was my father’s teacher. My grandfather worked at Wilson Observatory for 50 years and back during WWII, he let my dad and Goddard and the other students of the CIT rocket club to do their experiments on the mountain.

    • omanuel says:

      It looks darkest before dawn, but rest assured Big Brother is going down!. This is how Stalin used National Academies of Science worldwide to hide evidence of creation by:

      1. Changing astronomy textbooks that showed the interior of the Sun was mostly iron (Fe) in 1945 into mostly hydrogen (H) in 1946

      2. Changing nuclear textbooks that used Aston’s “nuclear packing fraction” to indicate nuclear stability before WWII to Weizsacker’s flawed concept of “nuclear binding energy” after WWII.

      These changes in the foundations of solar and nuclear physics allowed Stalin to hide from the public the fact that the Sun’s pulsar core:

      1. Made our chemical elements
      2. Birthed the entire solar system
      3. Sustained the origin and evolution of life on Earth
      4. Still controls every atom, life and world in the solar system, and the climate of each planet, in a volume of space that is now greater than that of 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earth’s!


  12. omanuel says:

    The NAS formed the AGU in 1919. AGU remained part of NAS until 1972 and played a key role in enslaving the human inhabitants of planet Earth.

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