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Does anyone else realize that they are admitting that they can’t get an accurate temperature measurement…………..
……………even today, much less in the past
Huh silly me, I thought GHGs accounted for 33DegC warming i.e. instead of -18C the planet is 15C
Either GHGs only warm 32C or we still have 0.5C to go before hitting the normal level.
If we have record temperatures of 120+ and – 44 just on the continental US then any claim to a global temperature is bogus!
If we were generous and allowed them to use temperatures to one tenth of a degree then the temperature has not changed since 1934 or even some periods in the 1800s. Correcting for UHI contamination would lead to dramatic cooling!
The decline that was hidden in the tree ring data was probably more realistic than current surface station measurements!
I’m no climatologists, But I don’t see the point of taking all the temperatures in the world and trying to average them together and then believe that you have a meaningful value. From what I understand they don’t even count December in some of these ‘data sets’.
We don’t have uniform distribution of temperature sampling throughout the world, and as we know we have AGW activist(s) massaging the numbers to account various phenomena as they see fit. The whole thing is a useless excersize to me. If this year, which featured significant record cold on every continent is the “hottest year evah” it’s a worthless designation.
I’m curious to see how they manipulate things to make 2011 a hot year since we’re starting off so cold.
very well said mike.
Where has the 0.50 come from?
CRU shows 0.475C, Met Office own monthly data shows 0.475C, yet the annual shows 0.498C?
“2010 warmer than 2009”
This clearly shows just how dishonest these guys are. Any objective scientist would explain that as an El Nino year, 2010 would be expected to be warmer and that 2011 would be cooler than 2010 as a consequence.
Even in a cooling world AGW will not give up without a fight.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12241692
“Agencies including the UK Met Office suggest 2011 is likely to be cooler on average than 2010, as La Nina conditions dominate.
The variation between El Nino and La Nina can alter the global temperature by half a degree or so.
But the variations it produces sit on top of a slow, steady warming trend dating back half a century, ascribed to the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from industry, agriculture, deforestation and other human activities”
“The variation between El Nino and La Nina can alter the global temperature by half a degree or so.”
so the anomaly of less than half a degree shows that corrected for el nino, 2010 was cooler than average? which would contradict the next statement, “But the variations it produces sit on top of a slow, steady warming trend dating back half a century”