The frequency of 90 degree days in the US has been plummeting for 80 years, and 2014 has had the lowest frequency of 90 degree days through July 23 on record. The only other year which came close was 1992, and that was due to dust in the atmosphere from Mt Pinatubo.
global warming is working great or is it cooling? drying? wetting? WTF IS IT PEOPLE?!
“It” is the ever convenient catchphrase, “climate change”. You know, like the climate is always changing anyway, so let’s now demonize level-headed science with the passing of each season.
Catch up man! It is now Climate DISRUPTION!!! Can’t you see it, feel it, taste it?
That’s exactly it. If it’s too hot, it’s climate change. Too cold, climate change. Drought, climate change. Flood, climate change. Too many hurricanes, climate change. Not as many hurricanes as predicted, climate change. Anything that happens in nature at all, as if there is ever a “normal” in global climate patterns, well, climate change and we should be taxed to death and live off windmills and solar power and stop farming cows.
Or there actually is climate change. http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/indicators/weather-climate/temperature.html
No one said there was no climate change. It has been changing for 4.5 billion years! What planet are you on?
I never said there was NO climate change. My issue was the contention that it was the coolest summer which I doubt. I’m on Earth. I’m not sure wher in the hell YOU are at or on.
T comes out of the closet!
You said “or there actually is…”. That indicates a revelation. As in WOW, really? I never quoted you as saying “no climate change” indeed I said NO ONE said that. And that includes skeptics.
Don’t “J’acuse” when you do not know what was said.
Which summer do you believe had fewer 90 degree days?
I completely disagree. There IS NO “CLIMATE CHANGE”!
Why do I say that? Because the politicos changed the meaning of the phrase “Climate Change” to confuse the sheeple. A tactic the progressives have been using for years.
The USA ratified the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change on 21/03/94 and they came up with a brand new definition. Now “climate change” is 100% caused by humans, AND THAT is what I do not agree with.
Here’s the official definition:
That’s from the official UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (http://unfccc.int/essential_background/convention/background/items/2536.php). The term specifically excludes all natural climate change, end even excludes any caused by humans due to, for example, land clearance or city building, considering only atmospheric changes.
So you’ve been hoodwinked thoroughly. Of course that’s the idea. They can make all sorts of horrendous claims about “climate change” (assuming their definition), which people like you assume to apply to, not “climate change”, but to a change of climate (meaning any change, whatever the cause or mechanism). So if they say, “climate change” is 1000 times more than it was 100 years ago, that may be true, but it might still be that the change of climate is negligible.
Do you see now how the hoax is perpetrated?
The fact that the UN has pulls such an underhanded trick on the general population should be a BIG CLUE that they are scammers.
Yup, you said it.
“level-headed science” now there is an oxymoron for you.
love the irony of oxymorons
“Level-headed science” disappeared when Al Gore invented the internet.
Actually, I think the climate is pretty stable – summers are warm, winters are cold, spring and fall transition between them, and overall we have weather mostly consistent with whatever time of year it is. All this BS about AGW and climate change is noise to continue the AGW fraud.
I’m surprised you can type this gibberish with your head in the sand!
pesce9991, are you a loving, kind, compassionate and understanding liberal or a conceited, vicious, rug-chewing, ankle-biting liberal?
Just asking …
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The former, Jim. Of course.
And your credentials are…?
Obviously, no-one can say anything about weather or climate unless they have the requisite credentials.
How about yours?
In the meantime, the Earth’s temperature has been fairly constant over the past 15 or so years,
No, you go find it. we shouldn’t have to do your homework.
I’m thinking that pesce9991 voted for Obama 5 or 6 times.
Pesce, go watch Christopher Monckton’s lectures and the documentary “The Great Global Warming Swindle” (Which, Ironically, was originally going to be about scientists who could verify the scientific basis of Al Gore’s film…but the producer couldn’t find any reputable scientists who agreed, and to save the money he’d already spent in research and conducting interviews, he made it about what a big fraud the AGW movement was.)
Note that both Monckton and the scientists in TGGWS say to NOT just believe them, but look up the facts for yourself.
Now who is more trustworthy? A politician who claims that human activity and CO2 production is catastrophic, yet lives a lifestyle in direct contradiction to that (I especially appreciated how he left the engines on his private jet running on the tarmac in the San Francisco airport while he got a haircut), or scientists who lay out the facts and tell you to draw your own conclusions?
No thanks, Elfguy. I’ll leave the honor of being deluded by him to you.
http://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-lesson-for-monckton-and-co.html
Hmmm….This SS? http://joannenova.com.au/2013/08/skepticalscience-goes-godwin-nazi-or-something/
You sure pick strange sources. Goebbels next?
That is not proven but if so then compassionately and lovingly.
No, lets demonize agenda driven science that is based on the desire of government to justify taxation, regulation, and control.
Its whatever TF we say it is. Pay us for carbon credits and nobody has to get hurt, see?
Stop being a truther. Always trying to find the truth in things. Why can’t you just let the government do what it needs to do: swallow every dollar we all make?
Nobody really knows… There are those that pretend to know for money or to defend the indefensible.
Some are Al Gore Climate Change proponents who if given the chance will end the coal industry, put up more wind farms that kill birds, and continue claiming we are doomed by global cooling.
Gore is just lining his pockets with money as his motivator.
…don’t forget the Gore’s family made money mining a specific type of coal…the one opposite they type he and his followers are trying to ban….moneytrail anyone?
tom steyers too.
Erik Von Guido ….moneytrail anyone?
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Oh Al Gore’s Money trail is truly funny.
Not only do you have Al Gore Sr. on the board of Soviet spy Armand Hammer’s Occidental Petroleum. Al junior was also a “friend” of Occidental Petroleum.
However as the CAGW scam has run it’s course Al Gore is heading for ‘greener’ (the money shade that is) pastures. No fool he, he is dumping his green energy stock.
Given all of Al Gores blatant moves that are anti-environmental and show he doesn’t believe a word of the bull he is spewing I find it completely jaw-dropping that any one with half a brain listens to the ‘sex-crazed poodle’
There’s obviously a clear pattern of unpredictability.
I get it! Good one.
It just isn’t climate commenters, it seems to be everyone, who just won’t say “I don’t know”. The real lesson of the Butterfly Effect, presented by E Lorenz, is that even a small difference at the beginning, such as a very small rounding of a data set, has a very dramatic effect later on for down stream predictions and results. Since it is impossible to be exactly precise in the beginning, or even to know where to begin, it is not possible to make exact predictions. So if anyone says, the rise will be 1 degree C or the decline will be 1.5 degrees C, you must immediately know that he/she doesn’t have any credibility.
My prediction: I don’t know.
re: Tom (@Templar8) says July 27, 2014 at 12:53 pm
It just isn’t climate commenters, it seems to be everyone, who just won’t say “I don’t know”. The real lesson of the Butterfly Effect,
The so-called Butterfly Effect ignores the concept of balance in nature; the natural skeptic in me has always had problems whenever someone mentions that ‘effect’. Rather, I think the chaotic nature of ‘nature’ balances out ANY imposed perturbation (by man or things like volcanoes) and a ‘reversion to the mean’ (as in: all energy flows are eventually out to 2.7 K ‘deep space’) is the result.
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Chaos Theory is the reason that NONE of the computer “climate models” are worth a damn. The models all linear/deterministic and the Earth’s climate is a complex, non-linear, non-deterministic system. When frauds like Hansen point to the “accuracy” of their models for the past 30 years, what he really did was fudge variable coefficients until he got the desired result.
The Butterfly Effect applies quite well to ” deterministic nonlinear systems”. You can see the effect quite clearly in fractal pattern generators.
Whether the physical universe is one of those systems is questionable. The effect probably entered the mass culture’s consciousness with Ray Bradbury’s story “A Sound of Thunder”: ” As of 1984 it was the most re-published science fiction story up to the present time.”
But for Lorenz’s thought experiment example is just that – a thought experiment, intentionally exaggerated. There’s no possible cause-and-effect relationship to the butterfly’s wings and anything more than a meter or so away.
In other contexts, there may well be a cause-and-effect. The most striking example is the “For want of a nail, a kingdom was lost”, and that story spells out the connections.
As far as long-term climate goes, I believe that nobody knows for sure.
lectorconstans, to quote the Zerohedge website motto: “On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.” also applies to everything a Butterfly’s wings could possibly affect; in the end thermal energy (from the sun, which will one day extinguish or the earth’s core) is radiated out to space, with the resulting local temperature approaching that of 2.7 K space temperature. I do not see where a Butterfly flapping or not flapping it’s wings affects this outcome (verily, it is just part of the overall energy in the system, either potential or kinetic at the time).
Also the ‘for want of a nail’ would seem to be limited to the environment or world built by ‘puny’ mankind; nature and overall plant and animal life does not seem to have an equivalent. That ‘we’ build such critical system is a reflection upon us, and not nature.
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What about the butterfly effect of the bat and bird kiilling windmills disrupting wind patterns? Same deal with the bird incinerating solar power plants and the vast solar panal farm waste lands that are sprouting up everywhere, what is thier butterfly effect?
Tom,
you might want to read what physicist Dr. Robert Brown has to say on chaos. It is his field.
My take away from several of his comments is that the climate stays relatively stable around one strange attractor until enough factors change and it tips into ‘orbiting’ a different strange attractor.
More on Strange Attractors from Dr. Brown:
Anybody who forecasts a chaotic system with more than one forcing more than 5 days ahead is either a fool or very courageous. – Climatologist
One thing is certain: Al Gore will NOT log in and post here.
It is a mechanism for the political class to scare the uninformed and dupe them into giving a STIPEND ……oops i mean money .. stipend, um… tax….to the ruling class. We are now watching the ruling class retarding us down to make a slave class. The new working class.
Americans as a whole deserve everything they are now getting from the political class. They are completely ignorant, uninformed, and gullible. Their maturity level politically is similar to a small child’s. The people have been completely corrupted and gladly exchange freedoms for the false protections offers by their nanny state. The last 8 years has caused me extreme disappointment in the electorate for being completely blind to all logic.
Perhaps one of the best posts I have seen in weeks. The dependency class will be the death of us all.
This dumbing down of the general population was done over more than a 100 year and it was done with Malice Aforethought by John Dewey (Fabian Socialist), the Father of American education.
What is interesting is Stalin tried Dewey’s methods and found them horrible so Soviet children were not subjected to Dewey’s deliberate sabotaging of their education.
Another prominent figure in destroying US education was George Count.
From the book Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America by Kent Clizbe
As Kent points out Americans were naive trusting Amateurs going up against seasoned professional covert operatives. The Bolsheviks spent their lives as covert operatives before coming to power and their thinking never changed. America never really had a chance against them.
cjt, you are exactly right. I’ve said for years now that if someone approaches you and tells you of a problem you weren’t really aware of or concerned about, then tells you that if you just give them money they can fix the problem, run. Just run, it’s a scam and they’re nothing more than a snake-oil salesman, like Algore.
well said cjt and don’t forget these elitists stand get very, very rich as they decide the winners and losers based upon the control of abundant, cheap and relatively safe carbon based energy.
Absolutely this is the case; any old reason to get more money from the producers to the takers to get a vote.
All of the above – it is a religious cult, not science
Actually, global warming is caused by women’s menopause.
Weather… Mother Nature … Plain and simple….
Sweetheart I love making fun of you “simpel-folk” who don’t understand science. Are you busy????
Richard, this proposed (I saw proposed, because, AGW has not been demonstrated EXCEPT through adulteration of the temperature record WHEN plotting the data USING government-adjusted ‘figures’) “global warming” scenario will be seen in later centuries as a hoax and a scam the size and magnitude Great Dutch Tulip Bulb craze, or on a smaller scale Pokemon & “beanie babies” fads.
Another ‘popular delusion’ fed by those in a frenzied search for money (Carbon Trading ‘markets’ anyone?) and power (isn’t that always the case? “Follow the money.”)
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Its like technical analysis of financial markets where “technicians” try to predict future stock movements by using historical data and charts. It has never worked in finance and it won’t work in climate science either.
Mother Nature?
WTF, Winning The Future with global warming.
Great comment! Was this one of Obama’s “programs” without realizing the text shortcut?
Jerry sweetheart is seems that science is too difficult for you “simpel-folk” to understand. The koch brothers will be very happy. They love “simpel-folk” that vote. Any questions????
Hey Dick,
Obviously, you have no grasp of the scientific method. So, yes; entertain us with your nonsensical interpretation of the data presented in the graph in this article.
Yeah, I have a question: how do you spell “simple”. Oh, you spell it “simpel”. Twice. Until you can pass second grade spelling I suggest you don’t post comments about how simpel (sic) other people are.
It’s cold because of global warming because Al Gore and pResident Obama said so. So stop asking questions.
exactly.
Now it is called climate disruption whatever in #€|| that is supposed to mean.
Somehow you know this is going to wind up Bush’s fault.
Yes, you nailed it, Bush’s fault, financed by the Koch Bros, and instigated by the nefarious Tea-Party.
“The People” know it as weather. The elite lefties who stand to profit immensely from convincing the gerbils that their activity causes “weather” used to call it Global Warming but since all the cooling statistics have been revealed they now call it “Climate Change”. That fits in their playbook perfectly.
Did you mean gerbils or lemmings?
And your climate science credentials are…?
And you IQ is?
And here’s your question: It is example of the logical fallacy, Appeal to Authority.
Correct.
Liberal nonsense for $200
And your climate credentials are?
Ron, thank you for asking this question, repeatedly, unfailingly and without hesitation. You could not have given a better example of thinking that is both a classic fallacy and a festering problem of modern times, as identified here more than 80 years ago:
I would like to have Ron riddle me answer to the question: “Where the very first “credentialed” person get his degree?”
Very simply stated, which came first, the chicken or the degree?
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re-try (correct missing verbiage)
I would like to have Ron riddle me an answer to this question:
“Where did the very first “credentialed” person get his degree?”
Very simply stated, which came first, the chicken or the degree?
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That’s practically the classic definition of a Ph.D.: the man who knows more and more about less and less, until eventually he knows almost everything about almost nothing.
The “credentials” argument is a standard tactic when somebody has run out of facts. I don’t have a Ph.D. in physics, but I can tell you with great certainty that a rock is going to fall if you drop it.
Get with it, Sir. It’s climate change or climate disruption caused by man. Algore who invented the internet told us so. Messiah IRS-Smidgen said he was going to heal the planet and he did. We are so lucky to have a jackass as our leader.
And your climate science credentials are…?
And your IQ is?
Just give your money and obeyance to Politicians or else Mother Gaia will die. And YOU will have killed her. You don’t want that on your conscience do you???? So just shut up and do as your Green/Communist comrades TELL you to do.
“What is it?” It is the statist desire to impose Socialism and hopefully North Korean Communism; by any and all means. i hate them.
oh btw record levels of Antarctic ice. lol.
OK, so to most people it would look like going out on a limb but I feel solid ground: CO2 is good for this planet and makes life better! We will know this conclusively in the future and those future statists will conveniently forget that their brethren were flat earth wrong.
(meanwhile I go on a statist list somewhere as an undesirable in need of Camp training or worse)
WAIT!!! Ice build up in Antarctica, did they measure the sea levels drop?
Was this not a central tenet?
Acually yes they did measure the seal level drop. The sea level has gone down since the highstand during the Holocene Optimum.
Another paper:
http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/ericg/kap_paper.pdf
Sea-level highstand recorded in Holocene shoreline deposits on Oahu, Hawaii
http://jsedres.geoscienceworld.org/content/66/3/632.abstract
The Authors interpret this data to agree with subsidence based on models: ” This history is consistent with geophysical models of postglacial geoid subsidence over the equatorial ocean first predicted by Walcott (1972) and later refined by Clark et al. (1978) and Mitrovica and Peltier (1991).” However if the Southeast Vietnam coast was geologically stable and showing the same type of data, that interpretation based on models is open to question.
The warmists sure will twist and turn and ignore the facts to support their believe the earth is warming, glaciers are melting and the sea levels are rising….
well, it is 90° with a real feel of 99° right now in South Florida. and i am working out in the direct sun trying to make a living while obama is chillin, destroying America, on my dime.
The libt@rd theory is that it is the inverse of dry ice… Instead of it being so cold that it burns you, it is getting so hot that you are cooling off. Now impose some regulations and lets get that laundered money back into the libt@rd coffers…
And your climate science credentials are…?
And your IQ is?
It’s a hoax
I think they now call it climate “change”. That way the temperatures can go up down or sideways and they are covered…
In 1975 in WAS “global cooling” and the coming ice age. Then we had Al Gore’s global warming. That euphemism didn’t work out so well for the left so liberals invented “climate change.” Most recently “climate change” has been updated to include “climate disruption.” I can hardly wait for the next euphemism for the left’s “get other people’s money” and “save-the-earth” religion.
Warm is really cool man!
Hay man, warm is really cool man!
It is called – WEATHER!
can we bring acid rain back, maybe the ozone hole thats going to kill us all? I’m feeling retro right now.
Its a load obama crap
Regardless, Obama will tax it.
It’s getting warmer in the north pole, which melts more and more ice each summer, which then cools the rest of the world like an air conditioner.
However, each year less and less ice is created at the north pole during winter, leaving more water in our oceans.
The North Pole is having the coldest summer on record, surpassing last years record cold. You have no idea what you are talking about
Whoever wrote this b.s. article has their head firmly up their ass for the warmth!! Here in the desert its hotter than hell….so don’t talk your bullshyt to me!!
Uhhh. Desert + Summer = Hot??? Ya don’t say…
Except it is not as hot as it has been. 115-120 degree readings in the lower desert are normal. This year? Not yet.
Don’t believe the 1st article you read. Yes the US as a whole is having relatively cooler weather than normal (other than the extreme drought on the West Coast), but worldwide temps are the hottest on record since they started recording in 1880.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2014/07/21/june-was-hottest-on-record/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/07/21/june-record-heat/12943367/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/07/21/june-2014-was-earths-warmest-on-record-as-ocean-temperatures-surged/
More accurate satellite data shows that is complete nonsense, and that global temperatures have been declining for 18 years. But thanks for being a useful idiot.
Steven gibbered:
“More accurate satellite data shows that is complete nonsense…”
[citation needed]
I noticed you’ve made a baseless claim. Do you want to follow up with more cherry-picked data? 18 years? Really? Why not go back 30? Or 50?
Is it because it makes your argument ridiculous? I bet that’s it.
It only takes one warmer year to show that this year isn’t the hottest ever, dinglebrains.
You lose the bet. Why not go back 1000 years. 20,000 years?
The date was “cherry picked” by Phil Jones. Might want to take it up with him.
From Philip Gentry at UAH – temperature graph
The RSS satellite temperature record shows no global warming for 17 years 10 months: Graph
The Met Office (UK) acknowledges (grudgingly) the temperature has been FLAT: The recent pause in warming
I disagree. 1969 was the coolest summer, man…
Well, they obviously missed the SF Bay Area in their calculations where recently we had Mtn View and SF set all time heat records and where here in Martinez ( 39 miles from SF ) we’ve just had a week of 90 degree + temps and one day at 104. The Bay Area has had unseasonably hot weather since April and it was sweltering in the city even 3 months ago when my Mother died. And the last I looked its still summer with cold temps in the Northeast and 90+ in the South. Global cooling ? Not around here !
The numbers include all of California and all of the lower 48. I was in Cupertino in July 2006 when it was over 100 many days in a row and hit 115 in Sacramento.
I am in mid North Carolina where 100+ was not uncommon when I first moved here. It barely got into the 90s for a few days last summer and this summer is pretty much the same. It is now 73 °F and was 65°F this morning. Yesterday morning it was 59°F and the day before that it was 60°F. Normally at this time of year the min is 70 °F.
I have not bothered to turn my A/C on all summer!
But, Global warming…
ManBearPig and his antics aimed to scare the low information voter into carbon credits (TAX) and to prop us failed “Green” industry investments with government funding (taxpayer dollars) into his and other ULTRA RICH men pockets.
The rich get rich off the backs of low information folks who are too ignorant to know the difference,(d) so keep watching for that gulf-stream or Lear jet, maybe you will get a glimpse of corruption as it fly’s overhead polluting unbelievably to shuffle one person off to the bank in Switzerland to deposit your carbon credit while laughing at you the gullible, and if you listen close enough you might hear a wisp of hockey stick being chanted or greenhouse gas being released by MBP himself….Farrrrrroottttttt and not a cow anywhere to be seen.
These cool days and nights are actually quite nice for this time of year but I definitely don’t like where the trend is going.
Stick around for 100 -300 more years and it will reverse itself as it has done though out recorded history.
I don’t know where the temps are going either but as a lifetime resident of steamy Georgia I welcome it. Cool nights, pleasant days. Very nice.
I love these past few nights in Southern Ohio have been just beautiful… open windows all night long… sleeping with COVERS!
I remember back in the late 1970s when they were telling us that it was our fault for the pollution in the atmosphere causing the next Ice Age to be arriving within the coming decade. Then I remember seeing at least two consecutive days of 100-degree (F) temperatures during the summer when I was in high school, and not a glacier (nor much of a snowfall) in sight. I’ve since figured that we have a cycle that more or less goes from hot to not-so-hot summers, and winters that are either mild or deep freeze where I live. That cycle isn’t uniform in scale or duration, but gets affected by variables such as where the jet stream lines up, the frequency of storm systems crossing the continent, and so on.
And this is just my observation over time. I live by an adage I’ve come up with: “Adapt or die; if you won’t adapt, you die.”
Didn’t we just have an artic polar vortex a few weeks ago? Similar to last winter when here in the east we had extremely cold temperatures.
Good luck convincing the climate alarmists. They generally do not understand simple math much less a statistical linear regression.
But they do understand grant money!
ABSOLUTELY
Yes, follow the money, Al Gore is very rich from this “global warming” and windmills that kill the birds, alternative energy companies that got our dollars went bust. Carbon foot-print is a joke, they’re the ones jetting all over and all their gas guzzling cars, and guards with guns, I decided to throw in too. But the rules they set are for us not them.
grant money and how to stick with failed computer models despite the empirical evidence that they choose to ignore.
Yeah, but if you just do the linear curve fit over the past 25 years you can definitely see global warming! On the other hand, if you do it over the past 50 years, ….. I love strictly empirical modelling – what answer does Al want?
And your climate science credentials are…?
Another stupid comment.
How about yours…
Mine was considered after some deliberation and judged to be apt.
e&oe
Brrrrr!
+1
The cooling trend is obvious. I believe all important climate parameters, ENSO, AMO, PDO, icecaps in both poles, etc., are saying the same thing.
Now, even solar radiations are giving signs that the solar max is ended,
http://www.landscheidt.info/?q=node/50
and the comparison with SC5
http://www.landscheidt.info/images/sc5_sc24_1.png
If NASA / GISS / NOAA etc., acknowledge it or not *makes no difference*.
2015 promises to be a very interesting year, for those really interested in learning the lessons of Nature (I mean, the real scientists).
We’re actually in the first half of a Grand Solar Minimum. This is caused by the way in which the four gas giants align in orbit. Every 171 years, Neptune meets Uranus and as they approach meet and leave one another, this is the Solar Minimum period. It happened in 1308 (Wolf Minimum 1280 to 1350) again in 1479 (Sporer Minimum 1450 to 1550) again in 1650 (Maunder 1645 to 1715) again in 1821 (Dalton 1790 to 1830) and it happened again in 1992. When N, U, J align opposite S, this define the depth and breadth of the minimum.
It has to do with angular momentum and magnetic dampening but it can be seen in the declining number of sun spots. These spots are caused by a slight cooling of the sun’s surface where magnetic strands exit the star. No spots, no mag activity. The sun is extremely quite now and is going to be so for another couple cycles or about 23 years or so.
Your reference to Dr. Landscheidt is spot on, DMH.
It is going to be pretty darn chilly in about 4 or 5 more years.
Believers in man-made global warming will respond like they always do.
And your climate science credentials are…?
Mosh, is that you?
Another foolish comment
Now that I read so many of your same postings I can conclude you are either a lightweight or can’t argue your position in a convincing way.
My comments mirror Ron’s in wit and depth, I suspect Ron of being and automatic reply bot with low language skills, as maybe are you. Do you have any meaningful output within you programming?
When the weather warms,it’s global warming. When the weather cools,it’s global warming. When the moon is full,it’s global warming. Bla bla bla they go on and on. Point is the earths been cooling and heating up from day one and has done so many times before modern man was walking about…..
Sweetheart I love making fun of you “simpel-folk”who don’t understand science. Are you busy???????
Ever heard of snowball earth?
Now they call it “climate disruption” and still demand that we stop living in heated/air-conditioned houses, driving cars, and ordering mass-produced goods. All while still flying in their climate-controlled jets, driving their limousines, and living in enormous mansions that have to be getting heated/cooled by some pretty stout equipment. All for our own good, of course.
Some things never change.
Smile, you’re on Drudge !
Smile, you’re an idiot.
kbray’s smile is awfully similar to the feces eating grins seen on illegals as they exit the local DMV.
I see by your link, you are a clown.
Ah, projection. My favorite tell for screwballs with no real argument.
The Drudge Report posted a link to Real Science at 9:20pm.
You are 2 and 1/2 hours late to the party.
My post is factual, your comment is that of a troll and is caustic as most of your other comments. Try posting facts instead of insults.
Maybe you should do the same?
VISITS TO DRUDGE 7/25/14
027,561,616 PAST 24 HOURS
20+ million could be reading your petty comments.
Smile.
These subsequent comments connected to my comment remind me of the game “Telephone”… The words interpreted by each listener never match the original statement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers
My original post was a compliment to the blog owner in getting a link on the Drudge Report. Restated: “Good work Steven Goddard”.
When I originally typed those 4 words there were no comments posted yet.
The downside to the Drudge link is it opens the blog to a new batch of trolls.
Have a nice day.
Hey, what’s the only thing worse than an incompetent liberal president? Answer, a competent liberal president. Now dont be late for your yoga class, therapist appointment or your psychic reading. Dont worry msnbc will be on shortly so you can get your propaganda fix for the evening and feel good about yourself..
Your head is in a dark place.
Kbray, How did you wind up here? A link on NYT, perhaps?
For several years now, I type in “Steven Goddard” and this blog magically appears in my browser.
Did Matt Drudge write this article? Does Matt Drudge write any articles? Hating Drudge is pretty shallow, even for someone who uses california in their name.
I love Drudge, I don’t care for trolls.
Troll: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Go there and you might learn something. If you’re into learning, that is. Otherwise you can polish your participation trophy, it’s pretty cool, you know.
Drudge is the top of my daily news links.
Smile you are IQ challenged drone without a wit of common sense or the ability to think critically.
Nice “facts” Dave…
I can see you’re not a science major.
How you conclude all that from the word “smile”…
You are a good candidate for the “warmist” club.
Drudge always brings in the trolls.
Dave and Chris GC:
The Nazis used similar claims against the Jews.
“Smile, you’re an idiot.”
“Smile you are IQ challenged drone without a wit of common sense or the ability to think critically.”
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
The Jews have some of the best minds and brains in the world.
Never again will they sit quietly.
When attacked, fight back.
And you seem to be an maginally improved auto bot with a slightly extended lexicon. Tell me can you really ‘know’ anything or do you just repeat you programming?
This is disturbing news to me. I’m in the climate change industry and my job depends on it. NOT!
Can you make a hockey-stick graph of this for us to share?
He already did:
http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/screenhunter_256-mar-02-06-55.jpg
Mann beat him to it: http://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/476395_337058606350348_101913724_o.jpg
Maybe you haven’t heard…the sky is falling !
The only thing that we can do is to raise taxes (on everything ) and to ride bicycles and live in pup tents.
Come on. Get with the program.
um, in Florida we have had 90 degree days since around start of May…it’s usu. 80’s…90’s are more August…it’s steaming here…cold? need a vacation? come to the GOM and go for a nice chem swim.
The problem with tents is that I read just recently about people getting killed in campgrounds during severe thunderstorms.
Cool man, real cool. Like far out man … oh, wait, … I think I had a flashback to the early 70s. I’m ok now … but why am I wearing this paisley shirt and bell bottom pants?
This has been a nice sumer in central Florida. It has been hot these last couple of weeks but it has been a mild sumer. The weather guy on the local channel was almost crying when he told me the tropics were quite and calm. I could tell he wanted a killer hurricane to come and make him important again. What has it been, 10 years now since Florida was hit?
This is a cool site and you are a cool dude Steve … er, Tony … er … oh hell, whatever dude. Keep up the great work. 🙂
there was a 70’s??
No, it was faked. Like the moon landings.
And a 60s, an evil decade that laid the foundation for many of out current ills. If we could erase the 60s, we’d get rid of all hippies and Barack Obama…mmm mmm mmmmmmmmm!
There were 70’s. I grew up then. And the summer then was a lot like it is now: not often too hot, more often mild and a bit of rain every so often. Back then, the climate gurus were crying about the next Ice Age and blaming it on us then, too.
And a 50’s and 60’s; I was there.
The CAGW propaganda machine is in overdrive to convince gullible people that 2014 is the warmest year ever.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/07/21/june-2014-was-earths-warmest-on-record-as-ocean-temperatures-surged/
Bits of bogus-science: http://www.bitsofscience.org/hottest-years-ever-2014-world-temperature-record-2015-6545/ It is a flat out lie, but so-called scientists get their fundings by supporting the global warming hoax.
Three days ago The Guardian came with the same bogus claim: Will 2014 be the hottest year ever?: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/23/will-2014-be-the-hottest-year-on-record
When this nonsense ends with a question mark, it can’t be even called a lie. The answer to the question is: No, the chance 2014 will be the hottest year on record is practically zero. The last months of the year should become super-hot compensate the cold we had so far and that is most unlikely. But many people remember only the headlines. 2014 the hottest year on record. It is by far not true, but a lie, repeated often enough, will eventually be considered to be the truth.
That Bits of Science link is woefully out of date…April may as well have been ancient Delphi as far as the predictions it spouted have likelihood of coming true.
Actually, ancient Delphi was often not wrong because it’s predictions were so vague that they strongly depended on one’s interpretation.
What were the lies, exactly?
Oh, yes, and how do you know?
Seriously, Ron, are you Mosh? Or, maybe the mustache guy? No way, you are the “willy”?
And you IQ is what?
What I just love is that the graphic in the WP article shows that the US temperatures have been warmer than normal. Really? Can we get these so called scientists a class on how to read a thermometer? Anyone in the US can tell you that temps have been lower than normal all year.
Cut the crap will you!? Did you even look at the article or the map? Nothing in the article mentions NJ being warm and the map shows warm and cool parts of the US. Here is a better article and more accurate map for you not to look at or understand:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2014/07/21/june-was-hottest-on-record/
I’m sure you have an even “better” map that shows how cold the earth was in 2014 up to now, so let’s see it.
Here’s a better graph with actual data. Try to find the “warmest” http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1987/to:2014/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1987/to:2014/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/rss/from:1987/to:2014/plot/rss/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1987/to:2014/plot/hadsst2gl/from:2002/to:2014/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/rss/from:1987/to:2002/trend
Whoa, Phil, you’re going to overload _her_ with data and “she’s likely to blow.” It won’t be ‘pretty’. But then again, that would be something I’d pay to see. Into Warp Drive it is then.
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I love the smell of exploding alarmists in the morning. It smells like…victory. 😉
let me spell it out for you since you seem to have a learning disability. red = > normal, blue = < normal.
The map was majority red over the US(warm) reality is cooler (blue). do you get it now or do I need to do a puppet show?
@Bob – I get it, but I would love the puppet show!
Here in MD we usually have a number of days at or over 100. This yer, zero over 100. This week the temps are barely into the 80s. No where near normal.
Gee, cold winter, cold summer: sounds like global warming to me.
Hey al gore what ever happened to global warming i mean climate change
It transitioned to climate disruption, then climate conniption, then I lost track… but it’s getting colder.
No joke, the latest catch phrase is “Global Challenge”. That way “they” always win…
Welcome to the new Ice Age. It took almost 40 years to arrive, but they’ve been predicting it since around 1978 or so.
Yeah, and what happened to all the Gigantic Hurricanes Al Gore predicted due to warming? Ha ha….
They going to say you can’t judge a trend by a single year…It’s becoming a mantra for them. It’s true, but this has been a number of years. Now, the question is, what has changed? If we really want to figure out what’s going on with the climate, we need to be looking at these things. The alarmists have been creating a huge carbon footprint of their own, trying to get the word out that we need to reduce our carbon footprint. Do you have any idea how much fuel it takes to fly all those people to all those conferences? They aren’t getting there via train our electric bus/car. All this extra carbon, no real change in infrastructure or driving habits, and we’ve been cooling…
Nope. You can’t judge a trend by a single year. But you damn well can judge it over an 80 year span! You can even do so by the now 8 consecutive winters of increasing record cold and snow in both northern and southern hemispheres!
I would like to give people a trend line that is 1,015 years long. It is sort of undeniable. 999AD Leif Erickson set up a colony in Greenland. The weather was warm enough for raising large herds of cattle, goats, sheep and also raising wine. The weather was pleasant for 350 years and the colony did well. They built homes using the Aspen trees for poles in their roof.
Then something miserable happened and the colony essentially froze out. They left as crops failed and the animals died. Even to this day raising significant crops of cattle is nearly impossible. Sorry for those who will try to say otherwise the entire herd of cattle there which is highly dependent on modern heating oil, there are less than 250 animals there now. The Aspen trees are extinct in Greenland and no trees grow there of any significance. It is basically impossible to raise animals, grass or trees there. Sorry guys who think otherwise but we have a long term Climate Change study on Greenland and it doesn’t do several things the “scientists” (AKA Useful Idiots) say. Sea levels were lower when it was warmer and the climate is cooling. Those are the undeniable facts. We have been cooling for about 650 years now.
And your climate science credentials are…?
And you IQ is …?
If they were really concerned…they’d be doing video-conferences on pedal-powered laptops.
That’s what pisses me off about climate change alarmists. They say you can’t use one year to justify a trend, but they constantly use single natural disasters to try and prove their point. Every one of them need to be punched in the f**king face.
I have the idea that the earth has been warming since the end of the Little Ice Age around 1850 and now the planet is cooling. Solar activity has been extremely low the last few years. A little warming is actually a good thing but another mini ice age would be disastrous. Crop failures, food wars, starvation….
My favorite was that the negative GDP in the 1st quarter was due to the “brutal” Winter. So I would guess that Global Warming might lead to a positive GDP? They want it both ways, or maybe all four ways!
Its Bush’s fault
The Bushes are are globalists who are also in on the cap and trade scam so yeah, I blame Bush also.
Share your proof or STFU.
I blame you for being dumb, not stupid, just dumb.
you are a dumb ass
Give Justin a break. Publik Skool Edukation isn’t like what it was in previous generations. Today’s kidz have to learn hip-hop, computers, tattooing, skate-boarding AND count to ten.
Quit bitching; September weather is always like this. Oh—
Yup, you nailed it James.
LOL
I would like to see a similar graph showing the frequency of below zero days over the same period.
Despite UHI, 2014 is coldest in 35 years.
If you want the grants and jobs in academia, and thr praise of all the alarmist it is cliemate change /warming if you don’t care about all the bs it is I don’t know we will see later.
Thank you Mr. Goddard. I don’t suppose you’d care to add a red trend line for us novices out here? It would appear that since 1980 the percentage of 0F frequency declined relative to the earlier period, but over the whole period the trend of frequency would cant only slightly lower, consistent with a minor warming trend? Kind regards from Urban Heat Island Grand Rapids near the Gerald R. Ford International Airport, where it is 60.7 F one hour before lunch at the end of July, and the snow didn’t completely melt until the first week of April!
Only in the US, Tony.
Prove it.
Oops, I forgot, you can’t.
Another ‘innumerate’ speaking beyond his (or her) innate capability.
In case you’re from Rio Linda: innumerate – means “without a basic knowledge of mathematics and arithmetic”
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I’d like to see a similar graph showing frequency of 100 degree days. It would make sense that 90 degree days would decline as 100 degree days increased, but no idea if that is happening if both show a decline then it’s much firmer evidence than a 90 degree chart alone.
I hope you’re just waiting til the chart is ready to approve my comment 😉 Really am curious to see whether 100 degree days are up or down.
It’s just US data. If you are interested in the global climate, there is nothing to see here.
except the “global” sea ice is setting new records….
yea,the US is not part of the world, right ron?
The US temperature readings have an exceedingly small effect on the global averages.
“Exceedingly small”??? Less than 2%?
But is 2% not an effect? YOu keep digging that hole, but China still awaits you.
She’s a digger, alright.
We’ve heard that narrative many times before. Climate always seems to move away from places that get invaded by cold weather. It just doesn’t like it there any more.
Also, can you explain your concept of “exceedingly”?
I think this question goes to me since I used the word “exceedingly small” to describe the land area of the US.
Happy to oblige. You may find the num3ers numbing:
The 48 contiguous states of the US are 1.58% of earths total global surface.
The total land mass of the US plus Alaska and Hawaii is 3,790,000 sq miles. This comes to about 1.9% of the total surface of the planet.
These percentages come from dividing the total surface area of the earth by the total area of the states without and with Alaska and Hawaii.
Perhaps a better word I could have used would’ve been “surprisingly small”.
You can see now that all the temperature readings we have can affect no more than 1.9% of the results.
Then the effect would be at best “small”. Not surprisingly since you are the only one that seems to be surprised of the area of the planet the US covers. And not exceedingly since the size is not changing (exceedingly being an adverb meaning less than what it represents).
So you laugh at Tom because you do not know the difference between spelling and grammar. Now you demonstrate a lack of comprehension of the language itself.
You must be a school teacher.
You’re being very anal phil, Like someone in love.
Aw, and I was so hoping that you would remain above the childish ad hominems! I held out great hope that at least, when properly educated on the English Language, a productive discourse could ensue.
But alas, like all alarmists, you are just another ad hominem spewing sycophant that has no clue what you are talking about.
I have an anus, I am not being like one. (Just so you know, Anal being the adjective of Anus).
However you are welcome to be one if you want.
Thanks for the invite (invite is a colloquial expression for invitation) but one @ss hole (anus) is enough per forum.
And more ad hominems from the troll. Frankly I do not think any bung holes are needed for a forum, nor trolls. But like flies to honey, they are always attracted to them.
And you have not disappointed. Just a quick question. Can you post a comment that is not illiterate, ignorant or insulting? You have yet to demonstrate the capacity to do so.
The diameter of the hole he is digging.
The US has by far the best long term temperature record in the world. About 98% of the rest of the world has nearly worthless long term records.
stevengoddard said:
“The US has by far the best long term temperature record in the world. About 98% of the rest of the world has nearly worthless long term records.”
I thought Central England Temperature was the longest continuous instrument record in the world. We have a longer one than that, and better?
Central England is about the size of Rhode Island. Always good to respond to what I actually wrote.
“The US has by far the best long term temperature record in the world”
stevengoddard said:
“Central England is about the size of Rhode Island. Always good to respond to what I actually wrote.”
OK, I simply asked you why the US temperature record is superior to almost every other one, and all I get is ridicule, along with central England and Rhode Island. I can see why this thread is so acrimonious. I obviously came to the wrong place, from the wrong place (Drudge).
No, CET is part of the 2%. And it is longer. And it shows exactly the same pattern as the US temperature record. Imagine that.
We do know that Thomas Jefferson kept good records while he lived in Monticello. I don’t know what Steven means by “long-term”.
And we do know that Russia closed down most all of its weather stations when they ran out of money. Not having that data would certainly skew the averages upward.
The hockey stick goes back to about 1910. The US has by far the best records covering a wide area going back for over a century. No place else comes even close.
JM says:
July 29, 2014 at 11:25 pm
I don’t quite understand your post but I suspect that you did not understand Tony’s response. He did not ridicule you or the English but pointed out the surface areas of the Earth being reliably temperature-monitored. All the regular readers of this site know that Central England has an old and continuous temperature record. The same readers also know about the history and quality of the US records, on a continental scale. This is not some silly jingoistic argument about temperature record bragging rights. It’s just how things evolved, for very practical reasons.
A poster above tied herself in knots trying to discount the US record not because of its quality or continuity but because it doesn’t represent a large percentage of the Earth’s surface. True, but the problem is that we have only a miserable amount of good historical data on the rest of the globe, Central England being one of the exceptions.
If you are interested in more information about the history of the United States volunteer organization we can point you to some sources describing its origins.
Facts and truth have never been a concern of the LIAR in the Whitehouse!
Here in North Dakot we will have to move away from corn and wheat to rye and oats(cooler weather crops. I think bison will still tough out the weather just fine though.
Bison are leftovers from the last Ice Age and will do just fine in the one that’s coming! LOL! 😉
I want to go hunt bison for some meat before this winter hits, though. I think they’ve been coming along just fine for a while now. If not, let me see if that surplus of whitetail deer can use a little thinning out…
We have had ice ages and 10 degree warmer temperatures while the carbon percentage in the atmosphere was at much higher levels. When are we just going to come back to reality and stop trying to steal peoples hard earned money????
Millions of “we” never left reality.
And many of us in that population remain infuriated by the politicized scientists who, having jettisoned their integrity and dismissed the scientific method, continue their funded scams to support the madness of CAGW.
When we start hanging the “thieves” from the lamp posts.
A country of sheep waiting to be slaughtered for their wool.
I’m assuming you never lived or grew up in farm country. You don’t have to “slaughter” sheep to get their wool.
Pesky global warming.
Much of the nation experienced a rare July cold spell last week which will be followed up by another next week. The way this pattern is going expect fall to commence in August and winter to follow close behind. They readily admit last winter was brutally cold (to excuse the failure of the Obama economy) but we will be facing a longer and even colder winter this year. It is getting harder and harder for the scammers to conceal the obvious from everybody much longer.
Tsk-tsk. 29 replies and not one person asked the only question that actually matters:
Where did the chart come from?
I did a Google search for “percentage of 90 degree days all us hcn stations” and came up with a bunch of articles, but nothing on this particular subject. Then I did the same search, this time putting “percentage of 90 degree days” in quotes, so it would look for that exact phrase, and came up with exactly one article — another article by the same author.
Without a link to the source, this article isn’t worth the pixels it’s printed on.
eric….try clicking on some of the buttons in the header of this blog
the rest of us know how
re: Eric Jennings says on July 26, 2014 at 11:12 pm
Tsk-tsk. 29 replies and not one person asked the only question that actually matters:
Where did the chart come from?
‘Hand-holding’, so, like kindergarten or first-grade even.
I now defer to the response by Latitude …
But, but, but…….?! This is the most critical and urgent thing for America to fix! That, at least according to Obama & Kerry. Never mind about Russia, ISIS, Terrorism, Iraq, China Aggression, Illegal Immigration, The Economy, or all the chaos in the Middle-East! Nope! Global Climate Change!!!
Glad to find your blog. I think I will learn a lot about the Global Warming thing. It does seem to be losing its public support, a little at a time. Wearing long sleeves in July, might have something to do with it. lol
The first thing you need to learn is how to spell it properly.
It’s spelled “g-l-o-w-B-U-L-L warming”!
good one.
You have to love the Gore Effect.
It’s always sunny in Utopia
I suggest you look up what a “ninety degree day” actually is. What the term actually means.
Yeah. They’ll do a 180° turnaround!
Once they find out what it means.
Maybe in SOME parts of the US it’s cooler than normal. Out here in parts of the Peoples’ Republic of Kalifornia, it’s sweltering….106F at the moment here in Fresno. I’m not blaming “Global Warming” because that’s just a ploy for elites like Al Gore to get richer and for Progressives to enslave the rest of us using “climate change” as an excuse to take away our rights and freedoms, but really, it’s not cool everywhere! Too much generalizing doesn’t work in a huge country like this.
We’ll make it easy…
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/cle/climate/info/degreedays.html
I’m pretty sure that actual temperature readings and heating/cooling degree days are what are being discussed here.
Oh joy! A link to a site run by the governmental agency that was caught red handed changing the numbers in historical temp data to support glowBULL warming! And after they were caught they quietly replaced the correct numbers when they thought no one was looking!
The funny thing is that the REAL numbers show a slight cooling trend going as far back as the 1930’s!!!
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/noaa-quietly-reinstates-july-1936-as-the-hottest-month-on-record/
This was even reported on right here!
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/
NOAA methodology is all in the public record. All temperatures in all graphs are computations (yeah, even the ones put out by deniers), not absolute measurements. As time goes on, the consensus as to the best methods changes and computations get updated. There’s no conspiracy, its just the way science has always worked and will always work. And the ignorant can howl at the moon all they want. No one with any sense is listening.
http://www.livescience.com/46643-climate-update-resets-heat-record.html
Ron, you’ve snarfed too much methane, try CO2. It’s a much cleaner gas.
Scorekeeping methodology is constantly changing,and it turns out that Brazil actually won the world cup. That is just the way cheating and fraud has always worked.
“Useful idiot” comes to mind.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Real Science wrote:
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I agree with Ron. Just ask Albert Einstein and Steven Hawking what it takes to advance science. I don’t agree with Tony who hasn’t met a fact yet that he trusts! (unless it has less than credible deniers at work on it.)
actually fishy, Tony trusts facts. He does not trust manipulation. That you cannot figure out the difference is your ignorance.
Misrepresenting my position will get you banned, pronto. I have zero tolerance for bullshit like that.
Einstein made a joke once “If the data doesn’t match theory, change the data” You apparently didn’t understand it was a joke. Comparing the NASA/NOAA fraudsters to Einstein indicates a severe lack of intelligence.
Ron and p, is it possible you can be so confused that no one can help?
Yeah, thought so….
Believe what you will Ron; I will believe my lying eyes before you.
So is the raw data. The raw data contradicts their “computations”. I am sure for some clown appealing to authority that means reality is wrong. But for most people they would have a second look at the computations to see where they went wrong.
But that is just the sane ones.
Thanks for the comity -er- comedy bjchip.
That link describes heating and cooling degree days. What this article is discussing couldn’t be in the same context. According to NOAA (and who is actually sourcing a USAToday article) 90degree day would requires a 90degree difference between the high and the average for the day. Since this is not Mars, I doubt that they are the same.
NOAA?? didn’t they COOK BOOKS to “PROVE” AGW?
yes, they also took down another lie where they published that the month of July 2013 was the hottest on record and very recently and very quietly took it off their web site and replaced it with the truth… July 1936…. this retraction of course did not get even a small fraction of the press the original lie got a almost a year ago… so again they continue to manufacture fear.
No. You’ve been duped by the oil companies’ minions again.
How do I get to be “duped by the oil companies’ minions”?
Does it involve more than billions?
(Ron has no clue.)
Oil companies are busy keeping all the Big Greens in line with the chant of no to coal and all the other bulcarp.
I wonder whee Ron buys his gasoline? Oh, silly me, HE RIDES THE BUS (or subway, or streetcar etc). Gee, from whom do you suppose the transit authority buys their fuel?
(Silly liberals never ‘think’ that far into a ‘problem’ …)
And now we get unsubstantiated innuendo. Prove it little ron.
But, but Obama said the debate was over…
When “Climate Change” does not come to fruition, the new call to arms will be “Climate Stagnation,”
Bumper stickers, placards, pompous Hollywood stars and starlets, all calling for an end to the dreaded “Climate Stagnation.”
Tomorrow I am meeting with my bag men, we are ordering one hundred thousand T shirts, “End Climate Stagnation Now!” We’re getting ahead of the curve on this one. Eat your heart out Michael Moore.
You won’t see this anywhere else or reported on in any other medium…. the “warmers” have fooled enough useful idiots and they have brainwashed enough kids in school that man is the cause of all climate issues… this despite the lack of solid empirical evidence and the immense changes in global climate before the first homo sapiens ever built a campfire…
Its about two things folks… CONTROL and MONEY… if the elites can control the use of bountiful and cheap carbon based energy like natural gas, coal and oil, they can control the world economy and if a global carbon tax is levied it will make thousands of TRILLIONAIRES.
Respectfully, Dave, it’s also about IGNORANCE as well as INTELLECTUAL and MORAL BANKRUPTCY and COWARDICE.
Absolutely; The global climate hoax is simply a way to implement taxation and the most sinister level; The Taxation of elements and molecules.
How I long for the days my youth in which all summer days were exactly 77.6 F, nights were a constant 61.3. Leave it to mankind to F everything up. The only thing that can save us is a benign dictatorship with the authority to enforce all human behavioral standards and the power to impose the death penalty for any violators.
Ah, the good ol’ days. When plate tectonics took a break. And fluid dynamics acknowledged our munificent presence.
Coolest summer? Guess Al Gore mouth is shut.
Don’t tell that snake oil salesman, Al Gore, about this. He’ll be out of business if this gets out.
The only way to stop global weather is to tax the United States into ruin. Then it will be room temperature all day and unicorns will rule paradise.
GE e wiz. AljazeeraGore is not gonna like it.
The “science” was settled.
Now who is stirrin this up?
Aren’t we supposed to be fryin?
Not just in Cauliflornia?
Only a non-climate-scientist would doubt global warming causes cooling.
Wowee! You didn’t have to wait long for your comment to get “mod” “erated”! Wowee!
It must be because you are a real scientist.
Cool!
That’s it Ball…. up is down and down is up… as long as the far left narrative stays alive… that’s all that matters… Antarctic ice flow GROWS because of global warming… the threat of hurricanes increases …. wait… NOT? and that too is Global Warming…. brush fires in CA, prolonged menopause in women, tornadoes, earthquakes, its all due to Global Warming right Ball? Meanwhile the fat “warmer” hypocrites fly around in their personal jets spewing tons of carbon dioxide into the air but the working stiff coal miners they are out of luck….
The sun is hardly ever mentioned. Why? The global warming socialists can’t blame it on conservatism, corporations, guns, Phil Robertson, Bush or Reagan. But rest assured they are working on it! Stay tuned.
They do blame it on conservatives…
Here’s how.
CAGW is caused by industrialization, specifically the Industrial Revolution, which as we all know was kicked of by a bunch of greedy white guys who didn’t give a damn about anything else, except money…the current definition of Conservative. And most of those guys spent large amounts of that money on hunting lodges and safaris (being doubly evil by shooting noble, rare animals) which means they had guns.
And gun-toting, rich, white guys with no morals, compassion, tolerance or any redeeming qualities were evil incarnate, of course.
and the Sun won’t pay any taxes…..just like methane-emitting termites, volcanoes, etc…….
Whatever is happening to the climate it’s definitely a man made disaster!
Is anyone, anywhere able to see how…No matter what is happening. Somebody always has to add their supposed, scientific EXCUSE to explain WHY it’s too hot, why it’s too cold, why we have heat in Summer months that create thunderstorms, tornado’s, and hail. Then, they do the opposite when it oddly gets colder…DURING THE WINTER, and they make excuses for SO MUCH SNOW, FREEZING temperatures, and GOD FORBID…we get a HOT day in February, or a cold day in August. WE’RE DOOMED….I SAY..WE’RE DOOMED because suddenly…we have FOUR seasons that happen to affect the weather across the North American continent.
WHAT WILL WE DO? WHAT WILL WE DO?
Let’s ask AL GORE. He knows everything.
Global Warming? I know it’s true,cause I saw it on TV. You must learn to believe, don’t be blue.. Sometimes even fairy tales come true. Cross my fingers and hope to die! Al Gore and Barrack Obama? You Lie!
Somebody please tell Obama, he said the science is settled and the globe will burn by excessive heating, not from the sun but from CO2. In order to stop it, you have to pay carbon tax and all will end well.
Any idea if the graph for Europe or northern Asia looks similar for 2014?
It would be funny if not for the push for ever higher taxes due to their socialist/progressive lies.
So me one thing that has actually affected mankind’s behavior as a result of this hoax that isn’t imaginary or precautionary. Just one…
OK, that’s easy! It has exposed the right wingers for the idiots they are when it comes to science!
and it has exposed NOAA who’s had to admit the temperature history is so FUBAR it has to be adjusted
Wonderfully cool July here. Looking for high 80s next week when it should be high 90s…
The “Buzzword” has been changed! It is now “Global Climate Change”. Pretty much covers it all….ehhhh.
Hey Al Gore! This ‘climate denier’ wants you to step right up and get a slap.
doesn’t matter at the start if next year we will get the usual pronouncement of the hottest year om record. they have been saying that for well over 10 years to the point you would think we would have become water world in kevin costners movie! so if i was you i would learn how to sail a boat! lol
Steve, I agree with so much of what you write, but not this. The “coolness” of a summer should not be measured by the number of days of extreme heat, but simply by the average temperature. What has made this summer remarkable (at least here in MN) is the lack of deviation in the daily high temps. While we’ve only had two 90+ days, the average daily high is actually above normal, and the number of days above average is significantly higher than below.
The 90+ metric is of more interest to psychologists (as a memory device) than climatologists.
The ‘average temperatures’ are a composite of both the maximum temp each day and the minimum temp each day.
The Global Warming crowd tells us that CO2 should drive both min and max temperatures higher. But real-world observations show that most if not all of the increase over the past century has been due to changes in the minimum temperatures NOT maximum temperatures.
One huge problem with tracking minimum temps (or average temps influenced by minimum temps) is the Urban Heat Island (UHI) effect. Expansion of concrete and blacktop and buildings soaks up heat during the day that can dramatically increase nighttime and minimum temps, without much impact on daytime max temps.
Looking at Max temps as shown in this graph is an elegant sanity-check, because it removes the corrupting influence of UHI on minimum temps.
Max temps are on a long-term decline, in direct contradiction to the predictions made by all Global Warming models.
100%…….
“Max temps are on a long-term decline, in direct contradiction to the predictions made by all Global Warming models.”
I don’t think that’s correct… my understanding is that models tend to predict a slight warming trend during the coldest parts of the day. The belief in extreme weather (max temperatures getting hotter) is more activist rhetoric. (Although many scientists are also activists.) I don’t think AGW advocates want to draw attention to this, as it implies that even the predicted warming is likely to be fairly benign, by making temperatures less extreme, not more extreme.
Steven,
I dropped the ‘n’ on your name! Very sorry!!
That’s OK. His real name is Tony.
Duh! Where have you been? In Poland?
Jimmy, you’re back! Is there a part of you I haven’t destroyed yet?
Pretty much all of him you have not. But I guess you have not learned that petty pejoratives and infantile ad hominems are not destroying the opposition, just yourself.
Wow! What a day it’s been, pesce9991. I’ve read somewhere earlier that Mark Twain’s real name was Samuel.
And there is this recent scandal: A commenter posting as “Quinn the Eskimo” on Watts Up With That disclosed that he’s not really Quinn the Eskimo. All his past statements are now in question until his real identity and scientific credentials can be established.
Can we put you on the case?
Priorities Gentlemen! I think he should discern who is buried in Grants Tomb first!
Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
But aren’t we at the “crisis”, “tipping point” of “runaway” CO2 induced warming?
Al Gore gave up his airplane and looked what happened? CO2 went down and global cooling started up.
Did anyone notice that the article was about summer being the coolest IN THE US? I live on the east coast and, yes…we’ve had a pretty tough winter, a cool spring and now a much cooler than average summer. I like it!
But look at how insignificant that is to the global temperatures and you will see that it makes an extremely small change in the overall global temps. The USA is about 1.9% of the surface area of the earth. We would have to be much much cooler to make any change in global temperatures. Even compared to total land mass we are merely 6.5% of it. But global warming figures come from us and about 98.1% of the rest of the world.
To be fair, we are not the only country feeling cooler this year. But more are experiencing hotter temperatures than lower and that brings the average worldwide temps higher and that in turn is why scientists predict 20014 will be hotter.
This is how a little bit of knowledge goes a long way towards seeing the global warming picture correctly. All the bs I’ve read on this column is do to willful lack of knowledge.
” how insignificant that is to the global temperatures ”
What global temperatures? Who has as complete a record set as the US?
And, did you plot the RAW, un-adjusted data? Or just accept what some governmental agency posted to a website?
All this matters, you know.
It’s a “verify before trust” thing. And sometimes the “verify” stage shows that someone was cheating, so one can’t very well “trust” them past that point going forward, can they?
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We may do a better job than other countries and have a more complete set of records, Jimmy, but all that indicates is that we are doing a better job than they. It’s up to the scientists to take un-adjusted data and make sense of them. For example, they take the raw temps of urban areas which would skew the results higher so as not to exaggerate the total score. I assume you haven’t taken the raw data and extrapolated the results either, Jim boy, so your point is moot.
Also you have nothing but paranoid suspicion to base your claim that ‘someone was cheating’ was cheating.
p, so this is your claim: CO2 from fossil fuels can overheat the planet.
Please explain how that can happen.
No, Ronnie. Nowhere in my answer did I make that claim. You’re delusional. But since you brought it up, please explain what effect CO2 does have on the atmosphere using sound scientific knowledge.
re: pesce9991 says July 28, 2014 at 8:45 pm
I finished with you quite a few hours ago; you have NOTHING to add to this debate, you have NO FACTS only continued, hollow, pointless BANTER, and THIS was by your own ADMISSION!
It’s up to the scientists to take un-adjusted data and make sense of them. For example, they take the raw temps of urban areas which would skew the results higher so as not to exaggerate the total score. I assume you haven’t taken the raw data and extrapolated the results either, Jim boy, so your point is moot.
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If you’ve studied this…then you know that if you take away the adjustments to the temperature history…there’s been no temperature increase at all…..
If you take away the adjustments, algorithms, and infilling…..temperatures have been going down. since the beginning
There is no global warming without adjustment, algorithms, and infilling……..
But, Latitude, you have no way of knowing this. There has been no experimentation proving this, and so there is no reason anybody should believe it.
Geran: No I didn’t state anywhere what the effects of CO2 are on the atmosphere. But it’s a good topic. So you go.
This is in response to Jimmy, who seems a bit flustered now. He says (or blurts):
“I finished with you quite a few hours ago; you have NOTHING to add to this debate, you have NO FACTS only continued, hollow, pointless BANTER, and THIS was by your own ADMISSION!”
You haven’t answered even one point I made in my posts to have surrendered so easily, Jimmy. Your straw dog was answered when I said in effect that neither you nor I are in a position to take raw scientific data and make claims with it. I also said you are not logical and can’t reason your way out of a paper bag which is why you spend your time mired in delusion. I’m waiting for an intelligent reply but all I get is sound signifying nothing.
re: pesce9991 says July 28, 2014 at 11:53 pm
No, rather, I have no time for f*cking idiots like you who have nothing to contribute (by your OWN admission even) to the debate.
BTW, Note: You have earned the deserving moniker f*cking idiot along with rug-chewing, ankle-biting liberal (contrary to your PRIOR assertion to the contrary) by your actions, deeds and words in this thread. Some of you REALLY ARE low-life cockroaches with NO redeeming (social or otherwise) value.
(Caps are for emphasis, since I think you really are that f*cking stupid that you would misread what has been written here.)
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Oh Jimmy, I rather think you’ve lost it. I was hoping you could get past your short fuse and actually engage me in a reasoned discussion. But that’s not to be, I see. I’m not going to call you names even though quite a few come to mind. It’s always the one who can’t control his/ her emotions that loses the debate. Pity.
So you are admitting defeat already. Pity.
But, Latitude, you have no way of knowing this. There has been no experimentation proving this, and so there is no reason anybody should believe it.
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Your host on this blog has been posting about it for years…..
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re: pesce9991 says on July 29, 2014 at 12:59 am
Ever heard the words “Bugger off” spoken your direction? You have now …
You’re past the point of any redemption, you f*cking idiot. I say this with clean conscience and full knowledge of what it means. I actually pity liberals such as yourself, unable to think or move outside of narrowly confined memes defined by your ‘contemporaries’. Who is the ‘conformist’ today, it is the liberal who dare not speak out against his party or his party’s position. You will be struck down swiftly as a heretic.
So tell us again how ‘enlightened’ you are, how much more you know than us ‘peons’ down below … tell us again, oh great f*cking idiot one …
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Ha! Jimmy! I only go by what you have presented to me on this forum. I see a mind clouded by emotion, anger and bias rather than led by intellect. If I saw something else I’d be sure to tell you about it. So please don’t blame me for your shortcomings.
@Jim – I loved the line from this video: “Debating with idiots only reduces your own IQ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0mMRXr1Gog&list=UUCFKjJhc1_xKh7QItJC1k1w
Williams is rude, crude and not PC. I like that.
Wrong URL….
He must have uploaded a new one while I was typing…..
I found it, Shazaam –
“Don’t Debate Idiots – It Does No Damn Good”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0mMRXr1Gog
Peace1999, this means YOU.
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Yeah, Jimmy, but debating them is a lot of fun.
Then go debate them. I am sure you are on equal terms.
Thanks. I was beginning to think I needed to check my forehead for an “idiot” tattoo…
I really wish there were a 5 minute post edit feature…. It might look like I could spell better 😉
pesce9991 says:
July 28, 2014 at 11:35 pm
No, Ronnie. Nowhere in my answer did I make that claim. You’re delusional. But since you brought it up, please explain what effect CO2 does have on the atmosphere using sound scientific knowledge.
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I will have to answer for Ronnie. (There is no “Ronnie”, p is delusional, but, let’s keep it a secret.)
CO2 has not enduring effect on the atmosphere. QED
So sorry, geran. There is a Ron but I met to send this reply to you…..
p, do you also see little green men? How about 8′ tall rabbits? How about your great great great great great grandmother?
>>> BLAME IT ON ” GLOBAL WARMING ” . WHAT A CROCK OF COOCOO CRAP . <<<
Green is the new Red. And Green, Red or otherwise is all about having a good time, on other people’s dime. The lazy gravitate toward the Global Warming hysteria, which really gravitates around govt subsidy. Govt subsidy is eventually about the transfer of power from the Private Sector (the non-connected) to the Bureaucracy (and the well-connected).
Look at Mr. Obama’s buddies and then look at the venom he spews. Supposedly he spews venom at his buddies; really it’s just cover or ignorance. The Reds & Greens they kill the middle-class which only gives more power to the Ruling Class; who they supposedly despise. Paradoxical.
The Reds & Greens should be knocking down the monopolies (govt & crony) and supporting the Private Sector; instead they support the REAL Trickle-down economy; Socialism/Fascism.
To me it’s easy math to understand. But for most people it seems they just don’t see the equation and therefore support the wrong variables.
It’s not paradoxical. They suppose that in the Global Change (in the country) they will become part of the ruling class. It is idiotic but that illusion keep them going.
Well, as Red Green is wont to say, “If the women don’t find you handsome, they can at least find you handy.”
Global warming (aka climate change) is the religion of the stupid.
http://www.zazzle.com/FirstPrinciples*
This should surprise anyone? Air conditioners are much more prevalent than they were 80 years ago. They are working on a grand scale.
Global warming is evolving and learning, much like SKYNET. Only Al Gore and John Connor can save us now.
Climate change has been going on for 4.5 billion years. It will continue with or without us…..What’s the tempature supposed to be ??????
“Level-headed” Science is in the pocket of world governments whose agenda is to manipulate economies, to restrict civil liberties, and to impose global taxation. Only 43% of climatologists in the world insist that climate change is “man-made,” which is absurd on the face of it. Climate change is a FACT — it is the only ongoing, undeniable fact in the entire history of the planet. Earth’s climate is in a perpetual state of change. However, for a minority of government-subsidized “scientists” to declare that the Earth is warming up due to manmade causes is LAUGHABLE. They’ve been predicting hotter weather and more violent storms for nearly 20 years now, but it’s NOT HAPPENING. The Earth is growing cooler, the polar icecaps are expanding, the frequency and intensity of hurricanes and other storms is DIMINISHING. Manmade Global Warming is becoming a harder and harder sell because the EVIDENCE for it DOES NOT EXIST; or, even worse, the evidence is being FABRICATED.
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How can this be? Owl Gore SWEARS: “two kilometers or so down in most places there are these incredibly hot rocks, ’cause the interior of the earth is extremely hot, several million degrees, and the crust of the earth is hot.” We should all be burning up…
What have the scientists been smoking? The earth is not warming or cooling it suffers from Global Constipation! And with that we have Global Hemorrhoids!
If we can clear both up, then we are back to normal.
It would add credibility to the Numbers if the Author gave the source of those numbers…don’t you think? I guess we’ll just have to take his word on it …who ever He is
paperpushermj as someone that finds it hard to read I wonder how you managed to get here.
Well to answer you dumb question – ” I guess we’ll just have to take his word on it …who ever He is” , I’ve included a link to some moving pictures.
Enjoy…
We know who he is
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/who-is-steven-goddard/
we even know what he looks and sounds like.
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/another-video-from-iccc-2014/
“I want to hold your hand”
Next up, “I want to spoon feed you to” … /snark
It’s Bush’s fault — Obama
Global warming = Global tax = Global government = NWO run by the elites… Any questions?
Warming and cooling, ok.
This was another example of a meaningless propaganda headline. A low percentage of 90 degree days doesn’t make it the coolest summer on record. How about a chart the shows the average temperature in the summer? Then the data might match the headline. You wonder why people question both sides of the climate argument.
Nice to see so many AGW “truthers” We were voices in the wilderness in 2007. The worm has turned.
Al Gore has made millions off of this junk science thingy. …….like the “Pet Rock ” guy….
Wasn’t last summer one of the hottest on record?
Last summer was very cool too.
Man-Bear-Pig !
Running contrary to what the mainstream media lead Americans to believe, this attached website predicted a cool summer with below average temperatures 6 weeks ago. They also had 9 other predictions that all seem to be coming true.
http://www.frontlineofdefense.com/10-summer-predictions
“Imagine that there is a new scientific theory that warns of an impending crisis, and points to a way out. This theory quickly draws support from leading scientists, politicians and celebrities around the world. Research is funded by distinguished philanthropies, and carried out at prestigious universities. The crisis is reported frequently in the media. The science is taught in college and high school classrooms.”
Its supporters included Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and Winston Churchill. It was approved by Supreme Court justices Oliver Wendell Holmes and Louis Brandeis, who ruled in its favor. The famous names who supported it included Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone; activist Margaret Sanger; botanist Luther Burbank; Leland Stanford, founder of Stanford University; the novelist H. G. Wells; the playwright George Bernard Shaw; and hundreds of others. Nobel Prize winners gave support. Research was backed by the Carnegie and Rockefeller Foundations. The Cold Springs Harbor Institute was built to carry out this research, but important work was also done at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and Johns Hopkins. Legislation to address the crisis was passed in states from New York to California. These efforts had the support of the National Academy of Sciences, the American Medical Association, and the National Research Council. It was said that if Jesus were alive, he would have supported this effort. All in all, the research, legislation and molding of public opinion surrounding the theory went on for almost half a century. Those who opposed the theory were shouted down and called reactionary, blind to reality, or just plain ignorant. But in hindsight, what is surprising is that so few people objected. Today, we know that this famous theory that gained so much support was actually pseudoscience. The crisis it claimed was nonexistent. And the actions taken in the name of theory were morally and criminally wrong. Ultimately, they led to the deaths of millions of people.
The theory was known a eugenics. As Margaret Sanger said, “Fostering the good-for-nothing at the expense of the good is an extreme cruelty … there is not greater curse to posterity than that of bequeathing them an increasing population of imbeciles.” She spoke of the burden of caring for “this dead weight of human waste.” California was one of twenty-nine American states to pass laws allowing sterilization, but it proved the most-forward-looking and enthusiastic — more sterilizations were carried out in California than anywhere else in America. Since the 1920s, American eugenicists had been jealous because the Germans had taken leadership of the movement away from them. The Germans were admirably progressive. They set up ordinary-looking houses where “mental defectives” were brought and interviewed one at a time, before being led into a back room, which was, in fact, a gas chamber. There, they were gassed with carbon monoxide, and their bodies disposed of in a crematorium located on the property. But in retrospect, three points stand out. First, despite the construction of Cold Springs Harbor Laboratory, despite the efforts of universities and the pleadings of lawyers, there was no scientific basis for eugenics. In fact, nobody at that time knew what a gene really was. The movement was able to proceed because it employed vague terms never rigorously defined”.
They say history repeats itself. Today the theory is called “Climate Change”.
RIP Michael Crichton. http://michaelcrichton.net/essay-stateoffear-whypoliticizedscienceisdangerous.html
Took awhile to get there, but you made the point. Thanks.
Can’t wait for the global warming thieves to become the global cooling thieves.
US population = ap. 320 million
World population = 7.1 billion
That means ap 15% of the worlds pop. lives in the US, with the highest concentrations of people in India and China.
If I removed the entire landmass of North America the charts would not change. If everyone in North America disappeared, and our carbon footprint reduced to zero, IT WOULD NOT STOP their imaginary trend.
So, you REALLY want to save the world? Learn Chinese. They obviously need the wisdom of Gore much more than the US does.
population = ap. 320 million
World population = 7.1 billion
That means ap 15% of the worlds pop. lives in the US, with the highest concentrations of people in India and China.
If I removed the entire landmass of North America the charts would not change. If everyone in North America disappeared, and our carbon footprint reduced to zero, It would not stop their imaginary trend.
So, you really want to save the world? Learn Chinese. They obviously need the wisdom of Gore much more than the US does.
What does it matter? the fact is, Pope albert has spoken-according to him, the earth is warming! Nothing else matters!
Please send some of this cooling our way in Jacksonville, FL. Current temp 84 at 8:30am. High today 98. Low tonight 77.
I’m not super-impressed with your linear trend line. At least cough up an R-squared to go with it. Presumably this was done in Excel, so that should be easy. More interestingly, throw a 3rd or 4th order polynomial at it. Certainly your R-squared will about double, and it will reflect better the dynamic nature of climate systems.
I farm for a living and track phenology quite closely. In our part of the world there’s been a two-WEEK delay in the heading out of winter wheat simply from the previous solar peak (Cycle 23, 2000-’02) to this current fizzle for Cycle 24. Given the timing, we’re planning for a Maunder Minimum type cooling. Ask me in about fifteen years. Current cooling could be simply PDO (Pacific Decadal Oscillation), but I doubt it, given the fairly steady Maunder cycle of some 325 years ±~10%. The world has been in a long-term cooling cycle for the last 55 or 60 million years (the Eocene Arctic Ocean was about like the Louisiana bayous of our day) and I doubt it will change any time soon.
Disclosure … though I farm for a living, my first two degrees were in Geology, followed by Soil Science and then Agronomy. That included several courses in Meteorology, Climatology, and Paleo-Climatology, so my professional expertise in this area is non-trivial. Too much alphabet soup for a farmer, but I’m a curious fellow. These days my passion is economic history, and the events tracking Maunder-cycle cooling include (14th C) the death of a third of the world population and the rise of a truly militant Islam; (10th C) the rise of serfdom and monasteries as over-indebted farms failed, utter dynastic instability in China and massive migrations such as the Hungarians; or (4th C) persistent dynastic instability in China and the fall of the Roman Empire, in both cases due to failing food supplies.
Serious stuff, and we need to pay attention. Linear trend lines for just a century or so do not add much to the discussion.
Common sense says you don’t need to see an “R-squared” to draw conclusions from looking at the graph and see the obvious peak in the 1930’s.
Do you do the same looking at your bank statement or the cost of apples at the supermkt? I thought not …
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This has been a particularly mild summer here in Texas. We are nearing the end of July and have yet to see a single hundred degree day. It is yet more proof that for postmodern liberals debt is wealth, diversity is strength, and cooler is warmer.
Gore fixed global warming…but overshot a little. Give him a more time and money. He will make the climate consistent…like the economists have made the economy consistent. Send him a check today.
Climate = THE WEATHER prevailing in an area…….GOOGLE CLIMATE DEFINITION FOOLS!
So Democrats are so braindead that they have just now figured out that THE WEATHER CHANGES?
WOW, the sheer stupidity and the boldness of the Democrat lies, all to raise taxes on working people…..
The truth of CAGW (aka Catagorically Absurd Global Warming) –
It’s only weather when it’s not hot, when hot weather=climate.
OK, now pay your carbon tax.
But then you read the loonies here:
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/26/climate-change-worsens-americans-refuse-accept-reality.html
This simply can’t be! Just last week I heard that NOAA was dropping past temperature records to make the new highs look like record highs….no B.S. either.
BULL CRAP ! It’s been hotter in Florida than I ever remember ! (over 20 years) !
Not here in n.Florida, it’s been 105 for weeks.
What does this mean?? Is this a frequency chart of days with a high of exactly 90 degrees? Or days with a high above 90 degrees? Or days with a high in the 90s? Days when it hit at least 90? Days with an average of 90? Are these numbers the average of all US stations? Or days when at least one US station got to 90?
On a “science” blog, it’s best to be a little more clear.
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Graph labeling:
“Percentage Of 90 Degree Days Through July 23 At All US HCN Stations”
The text above it says:
Coolest Summer On Record In The US
Posted on July 26, 2014 by stevengoddard
The frequency of 90 degree days in the US has been plummeting for 80 years, and 2014 has had the lowest frequency of 90 degree days through July 23 on record. The only other year which came close was 1992, and that was due to dust in the atmosphere from Mt Pinatubo.
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Given the above describing the data, I would write the equation thusly showing the percentage of days in a year (a per anum calculation which is then graphed) for temps recorded/reported at 90 deg or above for the US Historical Climate Network stations:
Percent_days_90deg_and_above = (Count_of_stations_with_days_90deg_and_above / No_of_Stations * 365) * 100
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Vars for each year:
. . Count_of_stations_with_days_90deg_and_above
This would be an accumulated ‘count’ of the number of days that stations (plural) reported 90 degrees or higher throughout the year.
. . No_of_Stations
Number of stations in the network. Between 1200 and 1300 if I recall correctly.
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Note:
The value 365 is adjusted downward from 365 to the number of days through July 23 for the year 2014.
Corrections, Tony or anybody?
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80 years is insignificant when it comes to measuring climate cycles. It would fall more under the catagory of weather. Climate takes place on a much larger time frame of Geologic Time. For example; The last Glacial Maximum ( LGM ) took place 20,000 years ago. Scince then, the continental Glacier wich extended from greenland south to St. louis and from the the north atlantic shore to the great pacific northwest up to Alaska. The continental Glacier melted to the extent that only about 1% of the continental glacier remains itoday in isolated,disassocited,tatters and remenants virtually unrecognizable in ice age terms.Further, This 20,000 yr warming trend is characterized by periods of rapid rates of deglaciaiton;periods of extremely slow deglaciation; and even periods of reglaciation under the much larger 20,000 year warming trend. In Geologice time 80 yrs, 100 yrs, 200 yrs is a nano-second of brevity wich can barely constitute a trend in the larger context of geologic time. Here is a movie of the modeled deglaciation of north america in the last 20,000 years. It is interesting to note that virtually 99% of the virtual deglaciation of North america takes place prior to the industrial revolution and in absence of any anthropogenic forces much larger than a camp fire.
From an even larger perspective of geologic time of the 4.5 billion year history of the earth it is interesting to note that Polar Ice and Glaciers on the planet earth occupies such a small amount of time as to almost be an asteric in the history of the earth. This is to say that the absence of Polar Ice and glaciation on earth is the ” Norm ” for the exceedingly vast majority of the Earth’s 4.5 billion year history. Further, In absence of any climactic factors of hemispheric or global proportion wich would not only interrupt the warming trend of the last 20,000 years but change to a trend of significant cooling, it is predictable that the tiny amounts of fragmental glaciation in north america and indeed globally will totally disappear thereby reuniting the earths conditions to its long standing historical norm of an Earth without Polar Ice and glaciation.
Modeled Deglaciation Of north America Movie: Again, 99% of the deglaciation of north america occurs prior to the industrial revolution. This is all one needs to know to dismiss the anthropogenic climate change kooks.
http://www.physics.mun.ca/~lev/glacmov.html
I don’t think that’s the point; why does every government plot-of-the-data show an increase in temp whereas an unadulterated plot of the data does not show an increase of temps?
Can you riddle me an answer to that?
SINCE the ‘sales’ of CAGW as sold to the public is BASED on the GOVERNMENT plots over less than an 80 year time span even, I think you message is wasted HERE and needs to be directed to NOAA and NASA GISS.
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Maybe the author could obtain a comment from demoRAT-COMMUNIST party operative and colossal fraud, algore.
Temperatures over the past several years have been getting cooler, not warmer. The warming trends all of those computer models and man-made global warming climate change alarmists were advancing were not accurate. This is what happens when a theory is supported by simple consensus of opinon, rather than being validated by science.
Here’s a link that explains why temperatures have been trending lower the past several years. The results are sure to fascinate you:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LgdKxk9Tkgk
My theory based on much research states we are heading towards a ice age but the human factor is indeed warming the planet. So what does this mean? Earth will undergo radical temperature changes and we my be able to stabilize effects but the truth is over time it may cause irreversible harm to mother earth.
“… it may cause irreversible harm to mother earth.”
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/coolest-summer-on-record-in-the-us/#comment-394370
The earth and life on it has proved to be extremely resilient.
At the risk of being pedantic, your copious research states that we are heading toward AN ice age.
OK, there’s the theory. In the strange world of science, a theory is a proposition that can be either proved or disproved. (So, we have the THEORY of relativity, which so far has passed all its predictions, and never been disproved.) A good theory also has to show some fundamental cause and effect relationship.
For your theory to gain acceptance, it has to make predictions (we’re going toward an ice age, but really we’re going toward a heat age). To flesh out your theory, you’ll need to show some cause and effect – backed with experimental observations.
There’s also a difference between a theory and a hypothesis; I’ll leave that difference as an exercise for the reader.
Here’s a prediction for you: Glaciers will not exceed more than 1000 feet in height, below 35º latitude.
(For more exact predictions, please subscribe. Limited subscriptions available.)
Here’s an even better one: The entire universe (including the Earth &c), was created just 15 minutes ago, in exactly that state – 6 million year old rocks, stars bilions of lightyears away, all of us with the memories (false, of course, and implanted) that we had at that moment.
The entire universe (including the Earth &c), was created just 15 minutes ago, in exactly that state – 6 million year old rocks, stars bilions of lightyears away …
I would be compelled to then ask: Why the facade?
Jim: “the facade”… It’s part of the Interstellar Conspiracy.
The cooler days are a result of the damage the humans have done to the earth during our industrial revolution and our rapping of the earth’s resources. The Global Climate change, a.k.a. Global Warming, is a direct result of our greed. So enjoy your so-called cooler weather now. Someday it will get hotter. How did I do Mr. Gore? 🙂
I’m sure some “expert” will claim this is a result of globull warming somehow.
The cooler days are a result of the damage the humans have done to the earth during our industrial revolution and our raping of the earth’s resources. The Global Climate change, a.k.a. Global Warming, is a direct result of our greed. So enjoy your so-called cooler weather now. Someday it will get hotter. How did I do Mr. Gore? 🙂
“Extreme weather” has now superseded “climate change” as the correct terminology in the field.
FYI
H.A.A.R.P
HAARP is not going to be funded anymore; pls choose another bogey man …
Hey, that works well. Look at how it has been extremely quiet on the hurricane front, for example.
At this morning’s U.N. economic forum Al Gore warned that climate change was going to cause million’s of people’s heads to explode. Maybe the cool summers will delay that. http://www.thedailyrash.com/al-gore-global-warming-will-cause-millions-of-peoples-heads-to-explode/
I think one of the most common mistakes in analysing climate is failing to use the correct time scale. To give credibility to any climate changes one must use geologic time as a reference point. For example; The end of the last great ice age is generally considered to be 20,000 years ago. 20,000 years is a nano-second in geologic time.This moment in time is referred to as the LGM ( Last Glacial Maximum) At that point in time the Glaciation of North america was continental in size. This is to say The Continental Glacier extended from Greenland south to St. louis: From The north atlantic seabord to the great Northwest Pacific coast up to Alaska. In the last 20,000 years over 99% of the continental glacier has melted due to a 20,000 year warming trend. This trend is characterized by periods of increased rates of deglaciation; decreased rates of deglaciation, and even periods of reglaciation all under the umbrella of a larger warming trend and massive virtually complete deglaciation of the north american continent.. Interestingly 99% of all deglaciation of the north american continental ice sheet occured before the industrial revolution. This is to say virtually the entire continental ice sheet melted in abscence of anthropogenic factors. This does much to poo-poo any notion of mans roles in any deglaciation. The remaining glaciation is best described as tiny,disassociated, fragments and remenants of the last great ice age making up less tham 1% of its former size and mass.
Here is a model of the deglaciation of north america in movie form. Again, note that 99% of this deglaciation occurred prior to the industrial revolution and in abscence of anthropogenic forces.
http://www.physics.mun.ca/~lev/glacmov.html
In abscence of climactic changes of hemispheric or global proportions there is no reason to believe the warming trend of the last 20,000 years will abate and the total melting of any remaing glacial fragments still existing in north america. this is the “norm” of the last 20,000 years. Further, If one looks at the entire 4.5 billion year history of the earth, Abscence of polar ice and any glaciers has been the norm for the vast majority of the earth’s history. This is to say that the abscence of polar ice and glaciers is the planetary norm wich the earth has historically resided in for vitually all its history.
Thanks for reading, you now have the scientific basis with wich to totally dismiss any and all climate alarmist kooks.
http://www.physics.mun.ca/~lev/glacmov.html
Bush is making this cold weather just to thwart the good works of Global Warming Flat Earther’s every where.
yes,,, since they can’t actually call it man made Global Warming anymore… it would seem to anyone with even half a lobe that if you are passionately trying to convince someone of the veracity of your claim …. you shouldn’t have to change the term used to describe your position
unless of course… your first position was weak and scientifically unsupportable.
Al Gore you bullshitter
When looking at ice records and CO2 levels, if you place your head squarely up your butt you can see that CO2 causes temperatures to rise, just as when shadows come out they cause the sun to shine. Now, remove your head from your rectum and clearly you see that as climate naturally changes, warming causes the release of CO2 just as the sun causes shadows.
A recent article on the hole in Siberia that has formed actually had the alarmist state the facts correctly saying that the warming of permafrost is causing the release of CO2.
http://www.wunderground.com/resources/climate/melting_permafrost.asp
Just had to point out how they continually contradict each other and rely on the idiocy of the masses for their continued funding.
The Earth relentlessly has been undergoing “climate change” since it was a primordial cloud of dust and gas and that continues to this day. No change at all means stasis and that does not happen in time and space. But it ain’t my fault or yours. Meanwhile, now that libs are thinking of a new catchy control-freak phrase du jour, the disgusting sweat stains under Owlgore’s armpits continue to spread unabated.
STRAIGHT TALK ON CLIMATE ALARMISM
80 years is insignificant when it comes to measuring climate cycles. It would fall more under the catagory of weather. Climate takes place on a much larger time frame of Geologic Time. For example; The last Glacial Maximum ( LGM ) took place 20,000 years ago. Scince then, the continental Glacier wich extended from greenland south to St. louis and from the the north atlantic shore to the great pacific northwest up to Alaska. The continental Glacier melted to the extent that only about 1% of the continental glacier remains itoday in isolated,disassocited,tatters and remenants virtually unrecognizable in ice age terms.Further, This 20,000 yr warming trend is characterized by periods of rapid rates of deglaciaiton;periods of extremely slow deglaciation; and even periods of reglaciation under the much larger 20,000 year warming trend. In Geologice time 80 yrs, 100 yrs, 200 yrs is a nano-second of brevity wich can barely constitute a trend in the larger context of geologic time. Here is a movie of the modeled deglaciation of north america in the last 20,000 years. It is interesting to note that virtually 99% of the virtual deglaciation of North america takes place prior to the industrial revolution and in absence of any anthropogenic forces much larger than a camp fire.
From an even larger perspective of geologic time of the 4.5 billion year history of the earth, it is interesting to note that Polar Ice and Glaciers on the planet earth occupies such a small amount of time as to almost be an asteric in the history of the earth. This is to say that the absence of Polar Ice and glaciation on earth is the ” Norm ” for the exceedingly vast majority of the Earth’s 4.5 billion year history. Further, In absence of any climactic factors of hemispheric or global proportion wich would not only interrupt the warming trend of the last 20,000 years but change to a trend of significant cooling, it is predictable that the tiny amounts of fragmental glaciation in north america and indeed globally will totally disappear thereby reuniting the earths conditions to its long standing historical norm of an Earth without Polar Ice and glaciation.
Modeled Deglaciation Of north America Movie: Again, 99% of the deglaciation of north america occurs prior to the industrial revolution. This is all one needs to know to dismiss the anthropogenic climate change kooks.
http://www.physics.mun.ca/~lev/glacmov.html
re: Big Daddy says on July 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm
STRAIGHT TALK ON CLIMATE ALARMISM
80 years is insignificant when it comes to measuring climate cycles. It would fall more under the catagory [sic] of weather.
As I wrote up-thread to one of your posts:
I don’t think that’s the point; why does every government plot-of-the-data show an increase in temp whereas an unadulterated plot of the data does not show an increase of temps?
Can you riddle me an answer to that?
SINCE the ‘sales’ of CAGW as sold to the public is BASED on the GOVERNMENT plots over less than an 80 year time span even, I [still] think you message is wasted HERE and needs to be directed to NOAA and NASA GISS.
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And I’ll add, I don’t expect you’ll actually address any of the ‘principles’ pushing the CAGW agenda (in government OR academia) and correct ‘them’ as you attempt to correct ‘us’ here.
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It’s Halliburton’s fault!
Funniest part is, they could start screaming “Global cooling” and the same clucking pinheads that believed them before would believe them again.
Where’s al gore and the gorons on this? Not a peep. Global warming is about control and a money grab.
No arrogant Alarmists here? No ignorant, bigoted little pricks regurgitating standard SS talking points? What worthless, pitiful opponents you have, Steve. Is this thread indicative of a trend?
… usually, it seems (to this observer), when RealSci links appear on Drudge; this is proof positive though, that the SS types *do* read Drudge, and furthermore, feel that any sources he links to with info contrary to their CAGW dogma must be ‘countered’ as it is seen as substantive, substantial opposition and likely to ‘harm’ the CAGW cause if not countered.
Wear it as a badge of honor, then, Tony et al, that they consider RealSci as ‘the opposition’.
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Here ya go. One arrogant little prick to burst your balloon and send you hurtling back to earth in a hurry.
“Coolest Summer On Record In The US
The frequency of 90 degree days in the US has been plummeting for 80 years, and 2014 has had the lowest frequency of 90 degree days through July 23 on record. The only other year which came close was 1992, and that was due to dust in the atmosphere from Mt Pinatubo.”
Let’s start with the above article which gets mindlessly repeated over and over here. First, the author is a commentator not a scientist. He’s not even a meteorologist! Second he gives nothing to back up his claims. No references or citations. Yet he is repeated over and over as some sort of authority we should take seriously at face value. His first statement about the frequency of 90 degree days plummeting is pure bunk.
Next, and this is your fault, you are pretending that a report on USA climate is the same as a report on Global climate. This is complete horse hockey.
Although reading seems to be a chore for you (plural) the report below should straighten out your warped brains.
The 2014 world map shows that the US is clearly cooler than the rest of the globe. But the US accounts for only 1.9% of the worlds surface area! You would get a failing grade in science if you did not catch that error. You can’t extrapolate a global trend from only 1.9% of the data. That’s like calling and election with only 1.9% of the precincts reporting.
I suggest reading the science behind global warming rather than some creative writing bs from unqualified ‘authorities’:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6
As a “scientist” yourself I suggest you look up “Argument from authority”.
The look of “fraud” and take a peek in the mirror.
Then, we’ll go through about 30 odd other fallacies and legal definitions.
Arrogant prick, indeed.
I suggest you try to answer my post, Sharpy. If you can’t that’s one for me.
now that’s odd….my balloon is still intact
re: pesce9991 says on July 27, 2014 at 5:47 pm
… Second he gives nothing to back up his claims. No references or citations. Yet he is repeated over and over as some sort of authority we should take seriously at face value. His first statement about the frequency of 90 degree days plummeting is pure bunk.
Pure assertion and no follow-up with a formal ‘proof’. (You have an opportunity to ‘demolish’ Steve and his ‘rep’ by doing this one thing, ya know? Just sayin …)
Pure argumentum ab auctoritate (argument from authority; ‘believe me because I say so because I am a a credentialed expert’).
I might also say we finally have a perceived ‘player’ show up in this thread, but, he (could be a she) has fallen just ‘short’ of the runway; crashed. Didn’t come anywhere close to ‘putting it on the numbers’ let alone crossing the runway threshold. (A/C pilots reading this know what I mean.)
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Another empty CAGW true believe rant. From someone who, unlike a real scientist, can not keep an open mind, or indeed go and prove what he says. No he only believes. Such an arrogant little know nothing.
More to be pitied than blamed, poor thing.
Sounds like you, too, can’t carry on a discussion either. Go to the corner and sit with Jimmyl
Another empty comment from pesce9991.
Can’t be any emptier than yours.
That made me nearly smile, your such a half wit.
You made me laugh. You can’t spell.
Actually his spelling is fine. It’s the grammar. Do not pretend to correct if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Yur right, phil.
Well you lose a point for spelling, but you get a point for the first